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How to visit a dealership, according to Google

Continuing my exploration into trucks, I asked Google AI on how it thinks I should plan a visit to the dealership to test drive some trucks and get a price quote that can be start of the negogation process and comparison to other trucks. I am thinking of doing this next week when things are quiet at work, but it could change based on weather.

To avoid spending the whole day at the dealership, you should separate your evaluation phase (the test drive) from the documentation phase (getting the quote).ย 

Step 1: The “Digital Handshake” (Before You Leave)

Before driving to the lot, call the dealership and ask for an “Internet Sales Manager.”

  • Verify Availability: Give them the specific stock numbers or VINs you found online. Ask them to physically lay eyes on the trucks and confirm they haven’t been sold.
  • Set the Appointment: Explicitly state: “I am coming in at [Time] to test drive stock #XXXX and #YYYY. I have other appointments scheduled and only have 90 minutes. Iโ€™m not buying today, but I will need an itemized Out-the-Door quote to take with me for my final comparison.”ย 

Step 2: Arrival & Physical Inspection (Minutes 0โ€“20)

When you arrive, skip the showroom floor and go straight to the reception desk to ask for your specific contact.

  • Visual Walk-Around: Before getting the keys, do a 5-minute visual inspection. Look for “lot rash” or transport damage. For a Super Duty, check the bed for fifth-wheel prep packages if that’s a requirement for you.
  • Features Check: Sit in the cab and verify the tech features (SYNC 4 screen, camera system, trailer brake controller).

Step 3: The Targeted Test Drive (Minutes 20โ€“50)

A standard test drive should take about 15โ€“30 minutes.ย 

  • Route Control: Don’t let the salesperson dictate a “loop” around the block. Take it on Central Ave for stop-and-go handling, but ensure you get it on I-90 or the Northway to check for high-speed “death wobble” or cabin noise.
  • The “Silent” Drive: Ask the salesperson if you can have a few minutes of quiet to listen to the engine and transmission shifts without the radio or sales pitch.ย 

Step 4: The Quote Request (Minutes 50โ€“75)

Once the drive is over, do not sit at the sales desk unless they are ready to print the quote immediately.

  • Request the Buyerโ€™s Order: Say, “Iโ€™ve decided this is a top contender. Please print out an itemized Buyerโ€™s Order for this VIN with all taxes and fees included.”
  • Deflect the “Commitment” Talk: If they ask “What will it take to get you to stay and buy today?”, respond with: “I am sticking to my process of collecting OTD quotes from three specific trucks. I will be making my final decision by [Day] once I’ve compared the bottom-line numbers.”ย 

Step 5: The Clean Exit (Minutes 75โ€“90)

If the salesperson goes to “talk to the manager” and doesn’t return with a piece of paper in 10 minutes, they are likely using a stalling tactic. 

  • The Follow-up: Hand them your card and say, “It looks like you’re busy. Just email that itemized Buyerโ€™s Order to me by the end of the day so I can include it in my final comparison.”
  • Walk Out: Leaving at your scheduled time shows you are a disciplined buyer who cannot be easily manipulated by “time pressure”.ย 

Friday, February 13, 2026

Things were different back then I tell myself. Much different, I was a different younger person those 22 years ago when I got expelled and arrested for my comments in a discussion of academic freedom, forever to leave SUNY Albany and ultimately getting my degree at Plattsburgh State.

Truth is I was a lot more innocent back in those days, ๐Ÿง’๐Ÿป with my long curly hair looking like Bob Dylan, it was before the days of wearing the cowboy hat, working my way through college and eventually graduating two years later after the Assembly Internship. Three years of hell, probation officer visits, $15,000 in legal costs, working, getting back to college, graduating, and eventually getting a job that I’ve served in various rolls over the past 18 1/2 years. It’s been quite the journey, though there is much to do. I was ignorant, stubborn, if I had only agreed to plea to a violation and pay a fine, I could have avoided a long, expensive drawn our court fight and getting convicted of a crime. ๐Ÿšจ All for 38 words in discussion over academic freedom. You can see why I’m kind of sympathetic to Trump’s efforts to reform academic. โš–๏ธ But it also got me much more interested in homesteading and the land, spending more time in the woods, especially as I lost more and more interest in computers and technology. ๐Ÿ But I’ve also stayed in city all these years. I am sure I would be a lot more successful at my career if I was more willing to go along and not push back on things. I guess in many ways I’ve learned if you want to get along you have to go along – as the Lyndon Johnson slogan went – and I’ve become more agreeable while remaining committed to cre principals but it’s been a journey.

It really was such a different world ๐ŸŒ back then, two decades ago, back when the War on Iraq was raging, I had that summer job at the asbestos laboratory. ๐Ÿ”ฌ I was kind of an innocent country boy, I remember the bumperstickers and the slogans, “No War for Oil” and how it was a popular meme on the left to say, “How Many Lives Be Gallon”. โ›ฝ As people protested the enormous Hummer dealerships and those who drove Ford Excursions. And me after all these years is thinking of getting a Ford SuperDuty – you know an ginormous F-250 or F-350 three-quarters or one truck. But I make good money now, done well at investing, and I want a reliable engine without all the complicated things that frequently break that the EPA is mandating on passenger cars and trucks. ๐Ÿ›ข๏ธ Back then out in country, you could have a burn barrel, and plenty did burn most of their trash, nobody cared with the occasional wift of burnt plastic, got to get rid of the trash. The liberals were advocating for a ban, but the Republicans in the State Senate held the line until of course they lost with Obama wave ๐ŸŒŠ after the Great Recession. Hell, even back then I had a glimmer in my eyes for those big smelly diesel farm trucks, with memories of High School and all the farm kids, but it was a different world back then, And like that, I was pulled in different directions, though I used to believe far more in the CAFE standards and government mandates for fuel economy, before I learned how badly they are trashing the engines of modern cars.

It is kind of the deepest and darkest days of winter, ๐ŸŒƒ even though we are getting more daylight, February often has the coldest and bleakest days before spring starts. Maybe that’s what pushed me towards risks at SUNY Albany all those years ago, I really believed in freedom. โœŠ By then I pretty much hitched my way to the Democratic Party, as that’s where the money is locally, made piece with liberal ideas after reading books about Adali Stevenson and the battles against those who believed in the Communist Scare. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ How things are so much more similar today with Trump in White House, though honestly I’m a bit undecided when it comes down to it all. I do believe in Second Amendment ๐Ÿ”ซ and I think liberals can be very problematic in their own way, just like the Trumpster and conservatives are a problem. This climate change thing is real, we can’t ignore it forever, though I still want my big-assed SuperDuty truck.

Then I’m brought back to that phone call ๐Ÿ“ž two years ago, when I learned my landlord had sold the building and in subsequent days learned my neighbor was moving out. I met the new landlord in the dark, after riding home from work that relatively warm and snow-free February two years ago, the burly construction worker and farmer dude ๐Ÿ‘ท with his big ol Dodge Ram one-ton. Just one of his income streams. My moving out neighbor was piling bags and bags of rotting garbage ๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ next to my unit, and I thought I had to find a new place to live. I really didn’t want to pay a lot more in rent – money forever lost – and new landlord hiked rent by $100 a month though by far it’s still the cheapest place around. I looked at the plastic houses and even some places out in the country, applied to some banks for mortgages, and even toured a house or two, ๐Ÿก but honestly I like living the city and my truly dumpy old apartment.

I do dream of living deep rural though eventually. At one point, it did make sense to buy a house at that point, as that was the first year I had a six-figure income, and a fancy new title of Director of Data Services, but honestly I was turned off by how expensive both fuel to heat and light such an enormous house and cost in fuel and time to commute. Especially when I still wouldn’t be free to have a burn barrel ๐Ÿ”ฅ or fires whenever I wanted on my own land, as it’s still New York. Not to mention all the issues with gun control, and the hassles I’ve had in the past buying guns. I did look at some pieces of land, modular cabins and stick-built models, but land development is expensive, and you have to comply with all those New York State regulations, mostly designed by big city politicians which have no clue what it means to live close to the land. ๐Ÿ•๏ธ The truth is camping and spending times in wilderness is enough for me now, as I scrimp and save on most things on live beyond my big-assed pickups. I can’t believe I’m replacing Big Red ๐Ÿ›ป so soon, but time marches by so quickly. By the time I need to replace Godzilla, I will be thinking seriously about retirement and actually building that off grid cabin. ๐Ÿ  My parents will certainly be gone by then, who knows, I might end up in Westerlo again at old homestead, and maybe in mean time I’ll have goats and hogs. ๐Ÿฝ Burn some paper but not too much plastic as it’s a more residential neighborhood, and yeah, New York.

It’s been a journey and I get super paranoid every time there is a Friday the 13th in February, โ„๏ธ but I know it’s just a winter day like so many others. One of the off-grid Facebook groups I’m part of was talking about the high cost of dumpsters to clean up the land, while plenty of off-gridders chimed in to say, well I live on unrestricted wild land, we just burn everything, and what doesn’t burn,  ๐Ÿ”ฅ we push into the ground, bury it, use it for fill, and build over it. A simpler life powered by dirt, rock and manure, and lots of diesel fuel for the farm equipment. ๐Ÿšœ Having heavy equipment and being self-reliant is all the more important as climate change only makes chaos worse. You know it’s fun to look at myself in mirror, in my private office overlooking the old city dump, a mid-level director overseeing the Data Services department, managing 13.5 million records, powering an insitition’s communication stragety. ๐Ÿ‘ด๐Ÿป Growing old so quickly, learning a lot every day, my mind changing as the world evolves.

Leading up to Valentines Day โ™ฅ๏ธ

One of these days I should get myself a girl friend, a tough motherfucker who likes big trucks, is not afraid to ram her hand up a cow’s rear end to preg test, shovel manure or make some black smoke burning a little garbage out in the country.

I do enjoy my freedom, ๐Ÿบ the nights in the wilderness, but I am a bit jealous of all my friends and colleagues with their homesteads and often kids now heading off to college. Hard to believe it was 22 years ago now that I was expelled from college over a debate on Academic Freedom and then graduated two years later from SUNY Plattsburgh, went on to my career in Assembly going on 19 years this year. How fast time comes and goes, indeed I’m closer to retirement then my college days which seem just like yesterday. ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ Maybe some day I’ll settle down, but I like my big trucks and the money, and nights up in wilderness. I work hard and make good money, fuck those who say I should buy a plastic house and a 20-year old Honda Civic for car commuting every day to work, so you’re not a sad desperate individual who rides his bike to work. ๐Ÿก I’ve always hated the trapping of suburbia, I like dirt and smell of the wood smoke, farm dirt and manure, not the stink of middle class suburban life with the kids bragging about their elite colleges they attend.

The plan is to leave early this morning, and ride over to Wally World ๐Ÿช and get some holiday candy to hand out my colleagues in the office. I’ve been putting off the meeting about reminding people to sign in, delivering a status update from the programmers on the database update, and discuss other programs I’ve been working on. ๐Ÿฌย  I am sure in the afternoon I’ll have meetings downtown, and then I can ride the bike home. I was out at 5 AM this morning to go to Stewart’s to get milk ๐Ÿฎ in plastic, even though I told myself I would get milk delivered in glass rather then spending my days looking for public recycling โ™ป๏ธ bins to dump empties in. I miss being up in woods and being able to just burn that crap. It’s nice, it’s not so cold this morning, at least when I went out to Stewart’s, so it should be good ride in. ๐Ÿฅถ Nothing like the bitter cold of last week, or the wet salty slop of the past Wednesday. But a plowed through it on my bike.

Apple pancakes this morning, ๐Ÿ with lots of ginger and cinnamon. Pretty damn good tasting, ๐Ÿ˜‹ good fuel for the day, with added carrots for the fiber. Yum just the smell of the shredded apples. Watching the sun rise ๐ŸŒ… as the days rapidly get longer and the winter fades away. I look forward to warmer days, and traveling, especially once I get the cap and things wired up on the new rig. Looking forward to that ride this morning, and getting through the work day. Maybe leave a bit before five PM and then ride home. It is nice to avoid the bus as much as possible. Hoping by next week if the snow disappears from the rail trail after the rain and warmer weather, I can go back to riding both ways to work nearly every day. I hate dealing with buses, loading the bike on the bus, paying the fare, etc.

Tomorrow starts the long weekend, ๐Ÿก but without a truck I obviously won’t be straying too far from home, but with the warmer temperatures it would have meant sloppy weather for camping ๐Ÿ•๏ธ at Rensselearville had Big Red not been retired. Do need to do more shopping. I’ll get a few things at Walmart today when I get candy, ๐Ÿฌ but I want to get additional things this weekend. And maybe also shop at Hannaford. I want to get both a big bag of pinto beans and more cornmeal, as I can get those things in bulk at Walmart for a good price. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ And who knows where else to explore. I expect with the deep snow still around but warming temperatures, things will be kind fo we.

Next week, weather dependent โ›ˆ I might look at and test drive the three trucks I’ve looked at DePaula Ford, I keep reviewing dealership strategy and how to get a fair deal on the truck I actually want. I just want to be taken seriously, I don’t want to hear from dealerships, oh, but we don’t think your SuperDuty material, what you want is a blown engine F-150 or a Ranger. ๐Ÿšš I’m the fucking paying customer, I don’t need to play that game ๐Ÿ˜ก – if you don’t want to sell me the damn truck – good bye, you’re not getting my business. There are literally close 100 Ford dealers within 150 miles of Albany.

Honestly, I have my doubts about test driving next week, as I think it’s going to rain the second half of next week. โ˜” Do some shopping ๐Ÿ›’ and ride around town this weekend. And some reading. ๐Ÿ“š I was looking at that Ford F-350 I was eying the other day with the XL Off-Road base package, and realized it has the Minizilla and not the Godzilla engine, so that gave me some pause. Really think I’d be better off with an STX-FX4 package and Godzilla, it would look a lot nicer, get some better features and have more power for climbing mountains and resale value if I eventually decide the Godzilla doesn’t serve my needs. Plus, a Godzilla with the 10R140 without towing, isn’t going to ever be running a high load factor, which improves reliablity further. Really not that much extra. I like the bigger tires but I can always add that later on to the rig when the factory tires inevitably wear out in a few years, and then I can get 35s for it. I don’t have to decide today or even next week. ๐Ÿ›ปย  I want to close the deal though by the end of March and either take delivery late March or early April.

I was kind of pissed that my electric and gas bill was $143 for January into February, ๐ŸงŠ but I concede it was cold, I’ve been home a lot, doing a lot of cooking, and especially using the heated blanket. And also during the winter weekends, the space heater, as I get chilled through quickly at 48 degrees, being thinner then I used to be. ๐Ÿคฐ I’ve tried to seal around the door, but it still leaks as does around the downstairs windows. I guess the landlord replacing the upstairs windows and the bad refrigerator helped, but the problem downstairs is because that outside wall keeps shifting and the windows don’t bend like the walls do, well after cracking. That building is kind of a hot mess, but it’s cheap even if it’s drafty. Everything is literally falling apart, but that’s what you get for $800 a month these days. And I’m sure another rent increase is on the way at some point soon, as everythng else is going up in prices. It’s fine, worse comes to worse, I’ll cut back on savings rates, but hopefully there will be a COLA this year at work and bonus payments. ๐Ÿค‘ And the market will keep growing, dividends and capital gains all around. I expect I’l have the heat off within a month, if March is anywhere similiar to recent years. Then it just will electric blanket at night.

Retirement and proximity to healthcare ๐Ÿง‘๐Ÿปโ€โš•๏ธ

One of the things AI was bringing up when considering retiring to an off-grid cabin in remote wild country, far away from the big cities, is the need for access to health care when one gets older. That is a valid concern, indeed the two hour drive each way for my aunt and uncle were a reason they moved from their place in small-town Arizona to a location closer to specialists. Getting older means seeing more doctors, it seems like my parents schedules each week involve visiting a lot of doctors.

At one level, I get the benefits of having access to specialty care nearby. But I think a better idea is just to take care of your body, fuel it with good food and exercise, and at a certain point realize it’s going to wear out and it’s not always cost effective to fix equipment on outdated machinery. You aren’t going to live forever, while some things may be worthwhile to fix, often doctors like mechanics want to fix everything, rather then just letting equipment wear out and life be done. Too often cost-benefit analysis on life is leaned towards protecting life for as long as possible, without considering the benefits to living a good life today. Maybe if a doctor is too far away, it’s not worth getting the problem fixed.

Will the SuperDuty actually make me happy? ๐Ÿ›ป๐Ÿ˜ƒ

That’s the question that remains on my mind, as keep studying the tactics to get a fair deal from dealerships, inventory levels, insurance quotes. It’s a big check, some paperwork, and it will be mine with no payment, just higher insurance bills and maybe bigger gas bill though that’s debatable compared to Big Red with his lift kit. And honestly, the cheapest way to avoid gas bills is to leave the SuperDuty parked, whether at home or at camp and ride my mountain bike. People are like don’t you know vehicles are about driving? I guess, but I never liked driving much, seems like such a hassle with cops and traffic.

Like anything, the best moments are not when you own or do the thing, but anticipation of the future. Happiness rarely comes when you are doing the actual thing or in the moment. The SuperDuty inevitably will break down, get smashed into by other vehicles, be expensive to operate, and a bitch to drive and park in the city. That is to be expected. It’s not like everything else in world. But also it will be many adventures seeing America while I’m still young and not so tied down by the homestead or even family. I talk about my trips to West Virginia or even the Adirondack wilderness, and those are often spoken with some jellously of those who have commitment that keep themselves closer to home. Michigan will be amazing this summer, as will the many nights spend hanging out on the tailgate of the new rig. And many other adventures in the years to come.