Other States

Exploring various other places outside of New York State, including Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Massachusetts.

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Vermont for Memorial Day?

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I’m increasingly thinking about doing a Vermont trip again for Memorial Day Weekend. Here are some reasons why:

  1. I’ve already camped up on the East Branch once this year.
  2. It’s so noisy camping up on the East Branch with the traffic from NY 8.
  3. Grout Pond might be fun to do a little swimming in.
  4. There are more hikes I could do in Vermont that I haven’t done before.
  5. I don’t have to drive on the expressway, with all the traffic if I go up to Vermont.
  6. There are lots of dirt roads to drive and explore in that area.

Asphalt Ends On Kelley Stand Road

Allegheny National Forest Dispersed Campsites

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Allegheny National Forest Dispersed Campsites (shown on this map with a round Yellow Camp logo) are free-to-use with a 14-day stay limit in any 30 day period. Many of these campsites are informal areas used for camping, others like along Forest Road 160 and 259 near Jakes Rock;s and along Lolita Grade have enhanced gravel pads/parking areas. Unlike New York State, they do not have formal markings at the sites.

In the Allegheny National Forest there are a variety of back country roads, offering primitive roadside camping.

  • Campsites are free to use, and have no facilities except for a fire ring and a pull-off from the road, and sometimes a site reinforced with gravel.
  • As noted below, some campsites have additional facilities.
  • Don't make a mess of campsites, pack out any garbage left over.
  • Burn only dead and down trees, don't bring in wood from out of state.
  • You can camp up to 14 days per 30 day period in Allegheny National Forest -- no permits are required.

Updated 5/11/2020 - Additional sites along Loleta Grade shown on this map, this new map separated out from NYS campsite map and includes additional information about developed recreation areas, roads and trails.

Please see also information on dispersed, roadside and back-country camping in New York State, Pennsylvania (including DCNR's free-Motor Vehicle Camping program) and West Virginia.

Lawton, Penna.

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Just a hick town outside of Montrose, I often find myself wandering through to find my way back to New York. PA 706 is slow, but it's fun to wander through those small towns on back roads of Pennsylvania. Gas station is new, in support of the fracking business, although the ball fields complete with burn barrels (NOT JUST FOR GUN CLUBS!), have been there a long time. It's called self-reliance.

1993 - LEFT / RIGHT - 2019