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November 1, 2018 Morning

Good morning! Happy November 🥧. Yeap, it’s the month of deer season, elections, and thanksgiving dinners. On that note, only three weeks to Turkey Day, aka Thanksgiving 🦃. I am thinking maybe I can get camping after that, like maybe on the East Branch of the Sacandaga River as long as the snow holds off. Light rain and drizzle, rough 46 degrees in North Syracuse. ☔ Calm wind.

Today will rain. ☔ Hope you brought your umbrella. Let’s get to the point. It’s going to be relatively mild, but still not nice. High of 48 degrees at 1pm. Six degrees below normal but near constant temperature for the day, actually warming through sunset. Calm wind becoming north around 5 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible. A year ago, we had cloudy skies. The high last year was 49 degrees. The record high of 78 was set in 1950. 3.9 inches of snow fell back in 1951.❄

The sun will set at 5:55 pm with dusk around 6:25 pm, which is one minute and 19 seconds earlier than yesterday. 🌇 At sunset, look for rain showers 🌧 and 47 degrees. There will be a northeast breeze at 5 mph. Today will have 10 hours and 15 minutes of daytime, a decrease of 2 minutes and 36 seconds over yesterday.

Tonight will rain. ☔ Low of 44 degrees at 8pm. Nine degrees above normal. East wind 5 to 7 mph becoming light and variable after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. In 2017, we had light rain in the evening, remaining overcast into the early morning. It got down to 48 degrees. The record low of 19 occurred back in 2002.

There are 5 days, 13 hours and 35 minutes until the poll close on Election Day in New York. 🗳 GOTV weekend starts well on Saturday,then it’s the election day, and like all that it just comes to an end. Then vacation. I can’t wait. If only for the good food that I can cook in the woods that doesn’t come out of a can and be cooked in a microwave. Or those long nights by the fire.🔥

I keep watching the 8-14 day outlook, and it’s been steadily been improving.🌪 Now it looks like seasonal weather with a normal chance of precipitation. I can take a day of rain, as long as the bulk of the days are bright and sunny and not too cold. Maybe it will prove to be a mistake to not get a camping permit at Hicks Run 🏕 but there is always that developed state campground about 10 miles away if I want to go down that way or I could just stop by the DCNR office during normal business hours. It looks like their office is located in Emporium, down PA 155 from Port Allegany. It would be also neat to see the Glass Block display now that it’s completely done. I could drive either down from Olean or head back over from the Allegheny National Forest.

But first I plan to spend several days in New York, specifically focusing on state forests in Allegany and maybe Cattaragus County. I might do a night or two in the Allegheny National Forest 🌲but probably not that many days, as I lack as Pennsylvania hunting license and I’m not going to pay a bunch of money for just a couple of days.🔫 Plus I want to see more of Allegany County — I’ve not spent much time there, instead spending the bulk of my time in Cattaragus County. I look forward to seeing the new arched railroad bridge at Letchworth State Park. It looks beautiful. And so much more. I haven’t decided exactly which state forests I will camp at but I have been to some of the sites in the past, and others I have maps for them. I just want sites with vehicle access, a decent amount of sunshine for the solar panel, fairly protected from wind, and with cellphone service for entertainment purposes during the long nights.

As previously noted, there are 3 weeks until Thanksgiving 🦃 when the sun will be setting at 4:34 pm with dusk at 5:05 pm (Standard Time). On that day in 2017, we had rain, cloudy skies and temperatures between 46 and 34 degrees. Typically, the high temperature is 45 degrees. We hit a record high of 70 back in 1931.

Off Ridge Road

An April North Country Trip, A Revised Plan for 2018

An April North Country Trip, A Revised Plan for 2018

A little over a year ago, I wrote a post about my plans for an April Road Trip to the North Country. For a number of reasons that trip never got off the ground, not the least being the wet and cold spring and the amount of things I had going on at work last year. This year though, I would like to try to make this trip, with the first few days spent taking NY 30 up to through the Adirondacks, maybe camping off of NY 8 one night then at Horseshoe Lake another night.

 Camping

When I reach the North Country, I would probably either camp on Conservation Road at Deer River State Forest or maybe the Walter Pratt Campground at Brasher Falls State Forest. The later is somewhat better, as it’s less likely to be muddy or snow covered in April, and it’s a fair bit closer to Massena. More cell service to keep me entertained at night. Deer River would be better in the sense that there are more areas near the campsites with hills and terrain that could be used as backstops while plinking. Maybe hit up some trout spots? It is April, after all.

Deer River off of Webster Mill Road

My April Road Trip would be quite similar to the trip I took in November 2015 to the Northern Adirondacks, probably fish in Deer River, go up to the Power Project in Massena, maybe do some short hikes in the Adirondacks. Drive back down through the Adirondacks or maybe via the Black River Valley.

Campsite

I would like to explore more of the state forests in St. Lawrence County. There is a lot of great land up that way that I’ve mapped and looked at the DEC websites for but have never explored myself. Many people might denounce the land is being flat with a lot of dairy farms – but I suspect it’s actually quite rolling in parts and many of the state forests are quite interesting. Wolf Lake State Forest seems to perk my interest.

It’s a bit farther then past April Road Trips I’ve done, but it would be fun to get back into this part of the state that I haven’t visited in a few years. I like getting around and seeing different parts of the state, as going to the same location, year after year, gets kind of boring. I’ve only really been up to the North Country (Franklin and St. Lawrence County) twice, so there are a lot left to explore.

Columbus Day Road Trip Ideas

Over the past couple of days I’ve been thinking about what I want do for my Columbus Day Week Road Trip. While it feels like I just got back from my five-day August eclipse trip, that is really a fading memory, and I’m ready for another big trip.

One option, mostly discounted would be a Vermont Northern New York trip. This would be good if I don’t think I could spend the full nine days on the road due to bad weather, some issue with the truck (unlikely), having to do work (also unlikely), or family needs.

That trip if I do it would consist of overnight in in Southern Green Mountain National Forest, then heading up to Mid-State outside of Middlebury then head north and drive through Smugglers Notch. I’ve never driven through Smuggler Notch and that would be interesting. From there head east to the Northern Adirondacks or maybe outside of Malone to the Deer River State Forest then to some of the state forests I’ve long wanted to explore in Saint Lawrence County, like Wolf Lake State Forest and Frank Jadwin State Forest. Then come down through the Tug Hill Plateau. That might be an interesting trip, but that’s not the one I really want to take.

The October trip I really want to do is the multi-state trip that I did to years ago to West Virginia and Virigina. But with some different destinations then two years ago. I think I want to actually see the Blackwater Falls in West Virigina, visit Ohiopyle State Park in Pennsylvania, drive through more of the farm country in the Shenandoah Valley and do more of the Blue Ridge Parkway in Virigina. This year, I’m much less interested in Shenandoah National Park and Skyline Drive, as I feel like I’ve done that before, and I’m not interested in the constrained forms of recreation that parks provide. I’d rather spend more time seeing the Blue Ridge Parkway, where the speed limit is 45 MPH and the curves in general are much less sharp and hills are smoother. The Blue Ridge Parkway is such a nice drive compared to so many other roads these days, especially the steep hills of West Virginia.

The one thing about this trip option is it will have me staying more in developed campgrounds then I would like. Yes, most of the $10 or even $20 fees are nuisance fees in the grand scheme of things, but I like having my space while camping. It’s just not the same to camp when you have somebody else 20 feet away and you have to keep the noise down. That said, showers are nice.

The places I would camp in West Virigina in the Mongehella National Forest, along with the George Washington National Forest are dispersed camping areas and are remote enough I probably wouldn’t see many people around except for a passing pickup. I like West VIrigina, but those roads sure are steep, twisty, and narrow. I don’t want to overheat my brakes again or worry about that.

One thing that Northern West Virginia has going for it this year with my new phone is that the AT&T GSM network has much better coverage up there, especially outside of the hollows. On the long autumn nights, I like to be connected to the Internet, surf the web, update my blog, and no I can summon emergency services should I run into mechanical problems. I’ll take a long gun and extra food but I don’t like having zero service for multiple days on end. I just hate being totally off grid, especially in such remote country. The lack of cell service with my Verizon network CDMA phone more then anything else bugged me a lot about camping in West Virigina.

This year though, if I go down, I probably won’t first visit the Alleghany National Forest but will instead stay at Asaph Run or more likely County Bridge Primitive Campgrounds. They are $10/night but they are worth it as they closer to being on the way, and I can then hop on US 15/US 220/Interstate 99 and head straighter for Cumberland, Maryland then West Virigina and either to Forest Road 13 outside of Thomas, WV or Camp Run in Fort Seybert, WV. I liked the dispersed camping a lot along the high-elevation swamps on Forest Road 13, although I always worry about their being enough campsites up there because it’s somewhat limited along the road. That would bring me close to Blackwater Falls for visiting the net day, and also along Corridor “H” which is a newer expressway to Thomas. It passes by a massive coal fired power plant, which might be interesting to drive by just to see what is like in person. Another option down in the corner of Pennsylvania by West Viriginia is the aforementioned Ohiopyle State Park, which I’ve been interested in a while but are more interested since that hunter last autumn that I ran into on the trail told me what beautiful country it is up there.

Dolly Sods Wilderness is quite scenic but it’s a way up and I’ve been there before so I may skip that. Same thing with Gandy Run Camping Area and Spruce Mountian, the highest elevation in the Mountain State. I’d rather hurry down to the Blue Ridge Parkway.

I would at some point crossover to Viriginia — I’m thinking US 250 — then drive down in the Shenandoah Valley for a bit before heading up to the Blue Ridge Parkway. I’ve seen the Shenandoah Valley from Shenandoah Parkway but never spent much time down in it.

The Blue Ridge Parkway is a nice drive. The North Creek Campground in Bucchan, VA is quite nice, for $10/night and even had a bit of CMDA cell service there. No showers though. The next overnight would be the Flat Rock or whatever the developed campground is on the Blue Ridge Parkway is south of Ronoake. I think that one is like $25/night but they they have showers and maybe even electricity at campsites.

At that point, I would almost be to the Tennessee line and I doubt I would go further south. I would probably come back part of the way I came, then more of the Shenandoah Valley, camping over again at North Creek Campground in Buchanan then probably heading up to West Virigina and camping over at Camp Run in Fort Seybert. I might then drive home from there or maybe overnight at County Bridge or Asaph Run in Wellsboro, because I really don’t like driving that much, and it gets dark so early in October.

I don’t have everything planned out and I need to study maps some more. But that’s fine. I’ll work on that tomorrow, and realize there is more to plan. That said, next Saturday, October 7th will be here before you know it.

2017 NYSDEC Lean-To Listing

Location Region Facility Name Notes
40.8977396062,
-72.6606151038
1 David A. Sarnoff Pine Barrens Preserve Interior Lean- To
42.039846675,
-74.593646931
3 Balsam Lake Mountain Wild Forest Balsam Lake Mountain Lean-To
42.0821851976,
-74.5866114487
3 Balsam Lake Mountain Wild Forest Dry Brook Ridge Lean-To
42.0669125899,
-74.6546347244
3 Balsam Lake Mountain Wild Forest Kelly Hollow Lean-To
42.0673682324,
-74.5869876883
3 Balsam Lake Mountain Wild Forest Mill Brook Lean-To
42.0490509759,
-74.644686588
3 Balsam Lake Mountain Wild Forest Mill Brook Ridge Lean-To
42.1150311581,
-74.4907498238
3 Belleayre Mtn Ski Center East Ski Lean-To
42.1177186512,
-74.5031992126
3 Belleayre Mtn Ski Center West Ski Lean-To
42.009105151,
-74.4838519037
3 Big Indian Wildernes Area Biscuit Brook Lean-To
41.9980754336,
-74.5603918334
3 Big Indian Wildernes Area Fall Brook Lean-To
42.0753394054,
-74.4858565042
3 Big Indian Wildernes Area Mckinly Hollow Lean-To
42.0920121203,
-74.50571316
3 Big Indian Wildernes Area Rider Hollow Lean-To
42.0502743293,
-74.5106001667
3 Big Indian Wildernes Area Shandaken Brook Lean-To
42.0697505965,
-74.2874492999
3 Phoenicia – Mt. Tobias Wild Forest Tremper Mountain Lean-To 1
42.0719347774,
-74.280350018
3 Phoenicia – Mt. Tobias Wild Forest Tremper Mountain Lean-To 2
42.1388242073,
-74.4544191301
3 Shandaken Wild Forest Rochester Hollow Lean-To
42.1027865494,
-74.3948255307
3 Slide Mountain Wilderness Fox Hollow Lean-To
41.9591817103,
-74.4068771821
3 Slide Mountain Wilderness Table Mountain Lean-To
42.0273156785,
-74.3356447251
3 Slide Mountain Wilderness Terrace Mountain Lean-To
41.9400595492,
-74.6320548238
3 Willowemoc Wild Forest Long Pond Lean-To
42.1584913515,
-75.3620266032
4 Arctic China State Forest A-40 Lean-To
42.1528069973,
-75.3102096425
4 Barbour Brook State Forest A-41 Lean To
42.2276166115,
-75.3902198332
4 Beals Pond State Forest
42.3354251044,
-73.4841812463
4 Beebe Hill State Forest Beebe Hill Lean-To
42.543303724,
-74.4885945942
4 Burnt-Rossman Hills State Forest Eminence Lean-To
42.5282012278,
-74.6420043552
4 Clapper Hollow State Forest Clapper Hollow Lean-To
42.0491041533,
-74.9281738602
4 Delaware Wild Forest Cat Hollow Lean-To
42.0118726464,
-74.9483763817
4 Delaware Wild Forest Mud Pond Trail Lean-To
42.0058597072,
-74.8682131934
4 Delaware Wild Forest Pelnor Hollow Lean-To
42.0124988931,
-74.9472696156
4 Delaware Wild Forest Trout Pond Trail Lean-To Built For ADA
42.6294376039,
-74.2675434311
4 Dutch Settlement State Forest Lean-To
42.2197534864,
-74.4391024687
4 Halcott Mountain Wild Forest Halcott Lean-To
42.313988005,
-73.4414954693
4 Harvey Mountain State Forest Harvey Mountain Lean-To
42.1660752671,
-74.2304343401
4 Hunter-West Kill Wilderness Devil’s Acre Lean-To Good Condition
42.1692897833,
-74.2576582937
4 Hunter-West Kill Wilderness Diamond Notch Lean-To
42.3550413796,
-74.3460668476
4 Huntersfield State Forest Lean-To
42.1196391066,
-74.0873843029
4 Indian Head Wilderness Devils Kitchen Lean-To
42.0985881282,
-74.0915994051
4 Indian Head Wilderness Echo Lake Lean-To
42.1357750354,
-74.1634997793
4 Indian Head Wilderness Mink Hollow Lean-To
42.1894936316,
-74.239507302
4 Rusk Mountain Wild Forest John Robb Lean-To
42.2789596573,
-74.1033902943
4 Windham Blackhead Range Wilderness Batavia Kill Lean-To
42.3062546068,
-74.1744107284
4 Windham Blackhead Range Wilderness Elm Ridge Lean-To
43.8755968409,
-74.366426237
5 Blue Mountain Wild Forest O’neill Flow Lean-To
43.8873444776,
-74.3788006261
5 Blue Mountain Wild Forest Tirrel Pond North Lean-To
43.829937473,
-74.4366163022
5 Blue Ridge Wilderness Cascade Pond Lean-To Fair
43.8186736685,
-74.4205248717
5 Blue Ridge Wilderness Stephens Pond Lean-To Good
43.8201917816,
-74.4686803224
5 Blue Ridge Wilderness Wilson Pond Lean-To Fair
44.5989256982,
-74.2285921246
5 Debar Mtn. Wild Forest Debar Mountian Lean-To Debar Mtn Leanto
44.4918501724,
-74.2523227309
5 Debar Mtn. Wild Forest Grass Pond Lean-To
44.5192586399,
-74.2710522386
5 Debar Mtn. Wild Forest Sheep Meadow Lean-To #1
44.5193465505,
-74.2711670085
5 Debar Mtn. Wild Forest Sheep Meadow Lean-To #2
44.108205472,
-73.7738312581
5 Dix Mountain Wilderness Bouquet Lean-To
44.0601596209,
-73.8078167801
5 Dix Mountain Wilderness Lilian Brook Lean-To
44.044126198,
-73.8058583966
5 Dix Mountain Wilderness Slide Brook Lean-To
44.1759172265,
-73.7215350426
5 Giant Mountain Wilderness Giant Mtn. Lean-To
43.8863219437,
-73.5641701351
5 Hammond Pond Wild Forest Eagle Lake Lean-To
43.9655912049,
-73.6440374623
5 Hammond Pond Wild Forest Moose Mt Pond Lean-To
44.1447454969,
-73.9547665307
5 High Peaks Wilderness Avalanche
44.1809734501,
-73.8284043214
5 High Peaks Wilderness Bear Brook Lean-To
44.121015479,
-73.9821264349
5 High Peaks Wilderness Beaver Point #1
44.1207874446,
-73.9817139904
5 High Peaks Wilderness Beaver Point #2
44.1825279757,
-74.1805220238
5 High Peaks Wilderness Blueberry Lean-To
44.1449655863,
-73.8833895452
5 High Peaks Wilderness Bushnell Falls #1 Lean-To
44.1444007481,
-73.8834828976
5 High Peaks Wilderness Bushnell Falls #2 Lean-To
44.1129718174,
-73.9928913122
5 High Peaks Wilderness Calamity #1 Lean-To
44.1448580137,
-74.2751710479
5 High Peaks Wilderness Calkin’s Brook Lean-To
44.1058294131,
-74.3120366857
5 High Peaks Wilderness Calkin’s Creek Lean-To
43.9980126927,
-74.3927845611
5 High Peaks Wilderness Catlin Bay #1 Lean-To
43.9972143811,
-74.3959393656
5 High Peaks Wilderness Catlin Bay #2 Lean-To
44.1425166432,
-74.1303582429
5 High Peaks Wilderness Cold River #2 Lean-To
44.091459278,
-74.2576417508
5 High Peaks Wilderness Cold River #3 Lean-To
44.0913902533,
-74.2557348025
5 High Peaks Wilderness Cold River #4 Lean-To
44.1427273763,
-74.1298402107
5 High Peaks Wilderness Cold River Lean-To #1 Lean-To
44.1778467491,
-73.833854921
5 High Peaks Wilderness Deer Brook Lean-To
44.141626874,
-74.1069373468
5 High Peaks Wilderness Duck Hole #1 Lean-To
44.1416768647,
-74.1065435467
5 High Peaks Wilderness Duck Hole #2 Lean-To
44.1142099053,
-73.9556152329
5 High Peaks Wilderness Feldspar Lean-To
44.1186643668,
-73.9840090128
5 High Peaks Wilderness Flowed Lands #2 Lean-To
44.1077341951,
-73.9912056361
5 High Peaks Wilderness Griffin Lean-To
44.1773165403,
-74.3218077012
5 High Peaks Wilderness Hemlock Hill Lean-To
44.1041784421,
-74.0669132937
5 High Peaks Wilderness Henderson Lake Lean-To
44.1117549601,
-74.0592189223
5 High Peaks Wilderness Henderson Lean-To
44.1178828905,
-73.9873641274
5 High Peaks Wilderness Herbert Brook Lean-To
44.0026552882,
-74.3864802633
5 High Peaks Wilderness Hidden Cove Lean-To
44.0760291647,
-74.3235341651
5 High Peaks Wilderness Island House Lean-To
44.1494011459,
-73.9557902347
5 High Peaks Wilderness Kagel Lean-To
44.0288002362,
-74.367307986
5 High Peaks Wilderness Kelly Point #1 Lean-To
44.0287025672,
-74.3671303487
5 High Peaks Wilderness Kelly Point #2 Lean-To
44.1706807759,
-73.9050776091
5 High Peaks Wilderness Klondike Lean-To
44.1130126221,
-73.9888393806
5 High Peaks Wilderness Livingston Point Lean-To
44.1469386475,
-73.9552287453
5 High Peaks Wilderness Marcy Brook Lean-To
44.1579156535,
-73.953395811
5 High Peaks Wilderness Marcy Dam #1 Lean-To
44.1573119259,
-73.9533863686
5 High Peaks Wilderness Marcy Dam #2 Lean-To
44.1573817221,
-73.9512823564
5 High Peaks Wilderness Marcy Dam #3 Lean-To
44.158399029,
-73.9510719571
5 High Peaks Wilderness Marcy Dam #4 Lean-To
44.1586913289,
-73.9524288871
5 High Peaks Wilderness Marcy Dam #5 Lean-To
44.1828433824,
-74.0736410238
5 High Peaks Wilderness Moose Pond Lean-To
44.079589789,
-74.2389368367
5 High Peaks Wilderness Moose Pond Stream Lean-To
44.0795538786,
-74.2391509433
5 High Peaks Wilderness Moose Pond Stream Lean-To #2
44.1992083493,
-73.9059885406
5 High Peaks Wilderness Mr. Van Lean-To
44.0158171441,
-74.1523218843
5 High Peaks Wilderness Newcomb Lake Lean-To #1
44.0205306743,
-74.1522782707
5 High Peaks Wilderness Newcomb Lake Lean-To #2
44.1733720177,
-74.1571389816
5 High Peaks Wilderness Number Four #1 Lean-To
44.1733860424,
-74.1561240274
5 High Peaks Wilderness Number Four #2 Lean-To
44.1110695692,
-73.9924324205
5 High Peaks Wilderness Opalescent Lean-To
44.1466502842,
-73.8622440861
5 High Peaks Wilderness Ore Bed Brook Lean-To
44.1202212816,
-74.1874471739
5 High Peaks Wilderness Ouluska Pass Brook Lean-To
44.0996351514,
-73.9133647612
5 High Peaks Wilderness Panther Gorge Lean-To
44.0654422644,
-74.3285192442
5 High Peaks Wilderness Plumley Point #1 Lean-To
44.0655989161,
-74.3276122455
5 High Peaks Wilderness Plumley Point #2 Lean-To
44.1472355081,
-74.318105399
5 High Peaks Wilderness Raquette Falls #1 Lean-To
44.1568302695,
-74.3133083456
5 High Peaks Wilderness Raquette Falls #2 Lean-To
44.1710800022,
-73.9974911766
5 High Peaks Wilderness Rocky Falls Lean-To
44.0414093849,
-74.3501490964
5 High Peaks Wilderness Rodney Point #1 Lean-To
44.0429767454,
-74.3493346475
5 High Peaks Wilderness Rodney Point #2 Lean-To
44.099413657,
-74.1052871721
5 High Peaks Wilderness Santanoni Lean-To
44.159177638,
-74.013876769
5 High Peaks Wilderness Scott Clearing Lean-To
44.1062441377,
-74.2091536428
5 High Peaks Wilderness Seward Lean-To
44.1247329647,
-73.9010796778
5 High Peaks Wilderness Slant Rock Lean-To
44.1988046777,
-74.3183103111
5 High Peaks Wilderness Stony Creek Lean-To
44.1093110139,
-73.961729679
5 High Peaks Wilderness Uphill Lean-To
44.1191510722,
-73.9841831313
5 High Peaks Wilderness Walker Brook Lean-To
44.1221483174,
-74.0532242803
5 High Peaks Wilderness Wallface Lean-To
44.1784419747,
-74.1736369919
5 High Peaks Wilderness Ward Brook Lean-To
44.161824666,
-73.8555947195
5 High Peaks Wilderness Wm. G. Howard Lean-To
44.1538919753,
-73.8510077515
5 High Peaks Wilderness Wolf Jaw Lean-To
44.2530195934,
-73.7180348153
5 Hurricane Mountain Primitive Area Gulf Brook Lean-To Fair
44.2607301476,
-73.7100106669
5 Hurricane Mountain Primitive Area Lost Pond/Biesemeyer Lean-To Fair
43.5996600139,
-73.5330643346
5 Lake George Wild Forest Black Mountain Ponds Lean-To Lean-To With Privy And Fire Ring Black Mtn Pond Trail
43.6193129088,
-73.5841121844
5 Lake George Wild Forest Fifth Peak Lean-To Lean-To W/ Privy And Fire Ring Tongue Mtn Range Trail
43.5760391953,
-73.5361031163
5 Lake George Wild Forest Fishbrook Pond North Lean-To Leanto With Privy, Picnic Table And Fire Ring Fishbrook Pd-Lk Grg Shore Trl
43.5738720148,
-73.5384766731
5 Lake George Wild Forest Fishbrook Pond South Lean-To Leanto With Privy, Picnic Table And Fire Ring Fishbrook Pd E Shore Trl
43.6473357817,
-73.5745337831
5 Lake George Wild Forest Five Mile Mountain Lean-To Lean-To W/ Privy And Fire Ring Tongue Mtn Range Trail
43.5778037953,
-73.5168397538
5 Lake George Wild Forest Greenland Pond Lean-To Leanto With Privy, Picnic Table And Fire Ring Greenland Pd Shelter Spur
43.5958213341,
-73.5179510245
5 Lake George Wild Forest Lapland Pond Lean-To Campsite With Lean-To 13-27 Lapland Pond Lean-To Conector
43.5871682823,
-73.5277594231
5 Lake George Wild Forest Millman Pond Lean-To Campsite With Lean-To 5-10 Old Farm To Millman Pond Trl
44.3214560457,
-74.0307860439
5 Mckenzie Mtn. Wilderness Placid Lean-To
44.3442169075,
-73.9286469378
5 Mckenzie Mtn. Wilderness White Face Brook Lean-To
43.7790246336,
-74.7044289121
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest 8th Lake Island Lean-To
43.7801152974,
-74.7044390115
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest 8th Lake North Shore
43.7897826664,
-74.6985922707
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest 8thlake East Shore Lean-To
43.8316711731,
-74.6617561796
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest Beaver Bay Lean-To 1
43.8316049364,
-74.6615109228
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest Beaver Bay Lean-To 2
43.8314336654,
-74.6609019165
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest Beaver Bay Lean-To 3
43.7478050188,
-74.7441985068
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest Seventh Lake Lean-To 1
43.7507665118,
-74.7346427944
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest Seventh Lake Lean-To 2
43.7563901134,
-74.7178174969
5 Moose River Plains Wild Forest Seventh Lake Lean-To 3
43.8145480145,
-73.5808194792
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Berrymill Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8384100119,
-73.5916749102
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Clear Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8412911595,
-73.6316882519
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Crab Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8223693677,
-73.5906397879
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Grizzle Ocean Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8492027141,
-73.6180024108
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Lillypad Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8500028762,
-73.5895397847
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Little Rock Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8405296779,
-73.6501782303
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Oxshoe Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.7945783128,
-73.6458567831
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Pharaoh Lake #1 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.7966550547,
-73.6403349616
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Pharaoh Lake #2 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8049450672,
-73.6240085371
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Pharaoh Lake #3 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8049450672,
-73.6240085371
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Pharaoh Lake #3 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8121074537,
-73.6282851829
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Pharaoh Lake #4 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8021964679,
-73.6391689125
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Pharaoh Lake #5 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8505590671,
-73.5922949091
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Rock Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.8581713271,
-73.626483712
5 Pharaoh Lake Wilderness Tubmill Marsh Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
44.3961331068,
-74.3704212658
5 Saint Regis Canoe Area Fish Pond Site 2 Lean-To Saint Regis Mountain
44.3913013571,
-74.3658071555
5 Saint Regis Canoe Area Fish Pond Site 5 Lean-To New Lean-To Built Sept. 2010,Relocated Further From Water
44.3808655111,
-74.3200340382
5 Saint Regis Canoe Area St. Regis Pond Site 3 Lean-To Lean-To Too Close To Water, Need To Move Back When Major Work Is Needed
44.3250945507,
-74.3498966646
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Follensby Clear Lean-To
44.2866574735,
-74.1626018103
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Kiwasa Lake Site 3 Lean-To
44.3322955804,
-73.9566258523
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Lake Placid Site 2 Lean-To Lake Placid
44.3325954268,
-73.9566801194
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Lake Placid Site 3 Lean-To Lake Placid
44.2253525405,
-74.3803783852
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Raquette Lean-To Built In 2013 Relocated From Trombley Landing Site
44.3092299998,
-74.1801499997
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Saranac Islands Site 2 Lean-To
44.2890999998,
-74.2172199999
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Saranac Islands Site 45 Lean-To
44.2666999994,
-74.2447999995
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Saranac Islands Site 63 Lean-To
44.2729500004,
-74.27398
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Saranac Islands Site 81 Lean-To
44.2878799998,
-74.2885399997
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Saranac Islands Site 87 Lean-To
44.2287716477,
-74.3755334312
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Trombley Landing Lean-To
44.3028866826,
-74.3026336593
5 Saranac Lakes Wild Forest Upper Saranac Lake Lean-To
43.8161997506,
-74.6446678086
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Big Island Lean-To 1
43.8170896757,
-74.6432509546
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Big Island Lean-To 2
43.8171339137,
-74.6437800321
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Big Island Lean-To 3
43.8707715776,
-74.6285067054
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Boucher Point Lean-To #1
43.8710064606,
-74.6281079204
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Boucher Point Lean-To #2
43.8707202965,
-74.629171869
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Boucher Point Lean-To #3
44.1027442039,
-74.321862706
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Deep Hole Lean-To
43.9262175397,
-74.4753958672
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Deerland Carry # 2 Lean-To Fair Condition
43.9257807189,
-74.4758457554
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Deerland Carry #1 Lean-To Fair Condition
43.9028470717,
-74.5480629364
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Forked Lake Lean-To
44.0814068183,
-74.3358291461
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Long Lake Nw Lean-To #1
44.0825043385,
-74.3339145725
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Long Lake Nw Lean-To #2
43.8593314968,
-74.5626945075
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Lower Sargents Pond Lean-To Fair Condition
43.8794136061,
-74.6060523536
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Outlet Bay Lean-To Hit By Tree, 2011
43.9066458928,
-74.5025901551
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Pinebrook Lean-To Fair Condition
43.8368984989,
-74.5352656022
5 Sargent Ponds Wild Forest Utowana Lake Lean-To
44.3317122951,
-73.8997103538
5 Sentinel Range Wilderness Copperas Pond Lean-To
43.2171873383,
-74.3641178087
5 Shaker Mountain Wild Forest Chase Lake Lean-To
43.1885867657,
-74.4310218123
5 Shaker Mountain Wild Forest Holmes Lake Lean-To
43.6161332228,
-74.1506253912
5 Siamese Ponds Wilderness E. Sacandaga River Lean-To
43.7007731961,
-74.1581732825
5 Siamese Ponds Wilderness Hour Pond Lean-To
43.7278247362,
-74.2012685562
5 Siamese Ponds Wilderness John Pond Lean-To
43.6775543215,
-74.1916025718
5 Siamese Ponds Wilderness Puffer Pond #1 Lean-To
43.6765395437,
-74.1997399401
5 Siamese Ponds Wilderness Puffer Pond #2 Lean-To
43.3974135952,
-74.45529759
5 Silver Lake Wilderness Hamilton Lake Stream #1 Lean-To
43.3426710732,
-74.4562907856
5 Silver Lake Wilderness Mud Lake Lean-To
43.2919354568,
-74.4237351677
5 Silver Lake Wilderness Silver Lake Lean-To
44.4897002134,
-73.8614267379
5 Taylor Pond Wild Forest North Shore Taylor Pond Lean-To Managed By Operations
44.4776887718,
-73.881283087
5 Taylor Pond Wild Forest Northwest Shore Taylor Pond Lean-To Managed By Operations
44.3997973549,
-73.5145569962
5 Taylor Pond Wild Forest Poke-O-Moonshine Summit Lean-To
44.4828880086,
-73.8537772441
5 Taylor Pond Wild Forest South East Taylor Pond Lean-To Managed By Operations
43.9326741166,
-73.9690844017
5 Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest Cheney Pond Lean-To
43.8387348153,
-73.9856219154
5 Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest Stony Pond Lean-To
43.6259693968,
-74.5492715037
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Beaver Pond (AKA Cedar Lakes Lean-To #2)
43.6787448835,
-74.4954982188
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Carry Lean-To
43.628125665,
-74.5404732399
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Cedar Lakes #1 Lean-To
43.6084635843,
-74.559724172
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Cedar Lakes #3 Lean-To
43.6524139144,
-74.4903803529
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Colvin Brook Lean-To
43.5968984709,
-74.5316653645
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Pillsbury Lake Lean-To
43.5807608964,
-74.576533363
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Sampson Lake Lean-To
43.5872448097,
-74.6215788384
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness South Lake Lean-To
43.5272841126,
-74.6099246975
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Spruce Lake #1 Lean-To
43.5346306298,
-74.6080858031
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Spruce Lake #2 Lean-To
43.5371297279,
-74.608209628
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness Spruce Lake #3 Lean-To
43.4527175892,
-74.5822815394
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness T Lake Lean-To
43.586987614,
-74.613997971
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness West Canada Creek Lean-To
43.5931622288,
-74.6268866843
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness West Lake #1 Lean-To
43.5970642572,
-74.6231056496
5 West Canada Lake Wilderness West Lake #2 Lean-To
43.5102617091,
-74.0492883971
5 Wilcox Lake Wild Forest Lizard Pond Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.3363734227,
-74.2173211966
5 Wilcox Lake Wild Forest Murphy Lake Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.396075559,
-74.1532214824
5 Wilcox Lake Wild Forest Wilcox Lake #1 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
43.39859675,
-74.1554639493
5 Wilcox Lake Wild Forest Wilcox Lake #2 Lean-To Digitized From National Geographic Map
44.0021452737,
-74.7756817712
5 William C. Whitney Wilderness Lake Lila # 7 Lean-To
44.4244015852,
-73.8486868866
5 Wilmington Wild Forest Cooper Kill Lean-To Too Close To Water, Need To Replocate, Do Not Repair
44.1070894301,
-75.0674448544
6 Aldrich Pond Wild Forest Streeter Lake Lean-To Wood
43.7434886212,
-74.8776068003
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 01
43.7443528827,
-74.8771318496
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 02
43.7456011181,
-74.8768832894
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 03
43.7466942129,
-74.8745145576
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 04
43.746535972,
-74.8735980503
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 05
43.7467703384,
-74.8722666576
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 06
43.7465482669,
-74.8718037808
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 07
43.7458848539,
-74.8729191925
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 08
43.7454701717,
-74.8727721949
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 09
43.7450840439,
-74.8725955649
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 10
43.744783668,
-74.8724088972
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 11
43.7441622435,
-74.8727256743
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 12
43.7440135576,
-74.8739878218
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 13
43.7431429387,
-74.875172598
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 14
43.7428736074,
-74.8760835968
6 Alger Island Campground Campsite # 15
43.6000735406,
-75.0530032053
6 Black River Wild Forest Bear Lake Lean-To
43.5245079024,
-75.0409215605
6 Black River Wild Forest Chub Pond #1 Lean-To Rehabbed In 2008
43.5298225654,
-75.0424937056
6 Black River Wild Forest Chub Pond #2 Lean-To Built By Lean-To Permit 1963, Taken Care Of By Plumley Family
43.5537469236,
-75.059377614
6 Black River Wild Forest Gull Lake Lean-To
43.5341150034,
-74.9280935302
6 Black River Wild Forest Lean-To
43.6299248982,
-75.0362877527
6 Black River Wild Forest Remsen Falls Lean-To Rehabbed In 2008
43.5589136946,
-75.0030576033
6 Black River Wild Forest Sand Lake Falls Lean-To Rehabbed In 2008
43.5998849075,
-75.0203817469
6 Black River Wild Forest Woodhull Lake Lean-To Rehabbed In 2008, Double Sized Lean-To
43.6520754244,
-75.0592470923
6 Black River Wildforest Nelson Lake Trail Lean-To
43.3445446485,
-75.6722203255
6 Cobb Brook State Forest Leanto
44.1990987752,
-74.8148790735
6 Cranberry Lake Wild Forest Bear Mountain Lean-To
44.2105729246,
-74.7181527787
6 Cranberry Lake Wild Forest Burntbridge Pond Lean-To
44.1533999108,
-74.8840290725
6 Cranberry Lake Wild Forest Ranger School Lean-To Campsite 41 Aka Inlet Flow Lean-To
44.0529214425,
-74.9471939334
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Big Shallow Lean-To Cs 30
44.0528916324,
-75.0090580588
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Cage Lake Lean-To
44.0931113064,
-74.8498397365
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Cowhorn Pond Lean-To
44.1123581654,
-74.8914922468
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Janacks Landing Lean-To With Full Sized Privy
44.0474525004,
-74.9526919257
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Little Shallow Lean-To Cs 30
44.1198328093,
-74.8454890242
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Olmstead Pond Lean-To With Full Sized Privy
44.0689970407,
-74.9112845696
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Oswegatchie River Site 13 Lean-To Cs 13 Lt
44.0688665373,
-74.9093532798
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Oswegatchie River Site 15 Lean-To Cs 15 Lt
44.0746275016,
-74.9613775006
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Oswegatchie River Site 34 Lean-To Cs 34 Lt
44.0843538607,
-74.9687312803
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Oswegatchie River Site 38 Lean-To Cs 38 Lt
44.0154640897,
-75.0054753701
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Sand Lake Lean-To Cs 30
43.9284894776,
-74.9448704212
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Trout Pond Lean-To
43.9284894776,
-74.9448704212
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Trout Pond Lean-To
44.0299676783,
-74.9801386129
6 Five Ponds Wilderness Wolf Lake Lean-To Cs 30
43.7029255425,
-75.0960024266
6 Haderondah Middle Branch Lake Lean-To
43.6859486954,
-75.0986138399
6 Haderondah Middle Settlement Lake Lean-To
44.1511613292,
-74.5657606156
6 Horseshoe Lake Wild Forest Black Bay Lean-To Checked 11/2015
44.196860294,
-74.5121752893
6 Horseshoe Lake Wild Forest Eagle Landing Lean-To Tupper Lake Site #5
43.8235350455,
-75.1693122081
6 Independence River Wild Forest Panther Pond Lean-To
43.7083935125,
-75.14645298
6 Independence River Wild Forest Pine Lake Lean-To
43.8089062032,
-75.474955964
6 Lowville Demonstration Area Lowville Forestry Demonstration Area
43.8558345419,
-74.804220953
6 Pigeon Lake Wilderness Andes Creek Lean-To
43.8575116443,
-74.8252446695
6 Pigeon Lake Wilderness Gull Lake Lean-To
43.8764050748,
-74.7655286668
6 Pigeon Lake Wilderness Lower Sister Lake Lean-To
43.8421644493,
-74.8055993839
6 Pigeon Lake Wilderness Russian Lake Lean-To
43.8139160683,
-74.7983685471
6 Pigeon Lake Wilderness Area Queer Lake Lean-To Campsite With Lean-To
43.8348742486,
-75.8607286637
6 Tug Hill State Forest Electric Loop Lean-Too Wooden Lean-Too Built In 1982, By Steve Wood Troop 7
44.3578220602,
-75.3160008277
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Beaver Flow Lean-To Beaver Flow Leanto
44.3242717044,
-75.3337383742
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Huckleberry Lake Lean-To Huckleberry Lake Leanto
44.3322757137,
-75.3211717792
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Moon Pond Lean-To Moon Lake Leanto
44.3322757137,
-75.3211717792
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Moon Pond Lean-To Moon Lake Leanto
44.3322757137,
-75.3211717792
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Moon Pond Lean-To Moon Lake Leanto
44.3322757137,
-75.3211717792
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Moon Pond Lean-To Moon Lake Leanto
44.3363136709,
-75.313863327
6 Wolf Lake State Forest Wolf Lake Lean-To Wolf Lake Leanto
42.746653083,
-75.3797255193
7 Charles E. Baker State Forest Trail 17 Lean-To Primitive Campsite With Fire Pit
42.7627233838,
-75.379619514
7 Charles E. Baker State Forest Woodland Pond Lean-To Primitive Campsite With Hore Tie Rail And Fire Pit
42.3270424066,
-76.4900608723
7 Danby State Forest Chestnut Lean-To
42.3176423354,
-76.4225442513
7 Danby State Forest Tamarack Lean-To
42.8201846305,
-75.8591052772
7 Deruyter State Forest Deruyter Lean-To
42.4228873052,
-75.7674346807
7 Genegantslet State Forest Top Ten Lean-To 20′ X 20′ Log Cabin
42.4728525684,
-76.1787322193
7 Kennedy State Forest Foxfire Lean-To
42.4458019158,
-75.7015069607
7 Ludlow Creek State Forest Ludlow Creek Lean-To 8′ X 10′ Constructed 2002
42.723126977,
-75.8709545002
7 Mariposa State Forest Mariposa Finger Lakes Lean-To
42.7672022335,
-76.0112561891
7 Morgan Hill State Forest Morgan Hill Lean-To
42.6423073773,
-75.7437663179
7 Perkins Pond State Forest Flt Lean-To Lean-To
42.3905962266,
-76.2718006242
7 Robinson Hollow State Forest Kimme Lean-To
42.3276442724,
-76.3290355678
7 Shindagin Hollow State Forest Shindagin Lean-T0 Scheduled For Replacement In 2004
42.5122011517,
-76.1208238604
7 Tuller Hill State Forest Woodchuck Hollow Lean-To Rebuilt In 2002 From Local State Forest Red Pine, Built By Volunteers From Suny Cortland
42.6060629372,
-75.4671141039
7 Whaupaunaucau State Leanto
42.3132130609,
-77.5663734584
8 Burt Hill State Forest On Finger Lake Trail Lean-To
42.625051213,
-77.3586638233
8 High Tor Wma High Tor North Lean-To Campsite With Stone Firepit And Privy Updated By Emily Bonk Forest Tech
42.6146971076,
-77.3661109424
8 High Tor Wma High Tor South Lean-To Campsite With Firepit And Privy Updated By Emily Bonk Forest Tech
42.0965007548,
-77.1964378403
8 Mccarthy Hill State Forest Mccarthy Hill Leanto Built By Fltc 2012
42.2891155929,
-77.1188809327
8 South Bradford State Forest Moss Hill Lean-To
42.3730816642,
-76.9554800047
8 Sugar Hill State Forest Buck Settlement Lean-To Built 2006 By Fltc
42.369515888,
-77.0127591279
8 Sugar Hill State Forest Parks Hollow Lean-To
42.3690917205,
-77.0130036276
8 Sugar Hill State Forest Parks Hollow Lean-To Log Built 2011
42.3822533326,
-77.0026799995
8 Sugar Hill State Forest The Twin Lean-To’s 2 Lean-To At This Location
42.3898077706,
-76.9725898373
8 Sugar Hill State Forest Vanzandt Lean-To
42.3340314562,
-78.532889311
9 Boyce Hill State Forest Flt Lean To Log Lean To Built In 2012 By Flt Club
42.53472215,
-73.9623319605
Cabins
42.3492343019,
-77.8075299409
Flt

Lean-To Side

This lists out the 331 lean-tos with coordinates in the DEC's April 2017 release of Points of Interest Shapefile, that can be obtained from here: http://gis.ny.gov/gisdata/inventories/member.cfm?OrganizationID=529

April 13, 2017 Night

Good evening! I was sitting out back for a while looking at the stars but it started to get cold. Now I’m back inside, in my bedroom next to my American flag lit by camp lamp. That flag is enormous in my apartment. It looks nice but will be even nicer in the woods next week. I’m a Proud American. Partly clear and 49 degrees in Delmar, NY. There is a west-northwest breeze at 8 mph.

Tonight will be mostly clear, with a low of 35 degrees at 5am. Two degrees below normal. Northwest wind 3 to 8 mph. In 2016, it got down to 31 degrees under clear skies. The record low of 19 occurred back in 1973.

Waning Gibbous Moon tonight with 82% illuminated. The Last Quarter Moon is on Wednesday night with chance of showers expected. The Full “Flower” Moon is in 4 weeks. The sun will rise at 6:15 am with the first light at 5:46 am, which is one minute and 38 seconds earlier than yesterday. Tonight will have 10 hours and 37 minutes of darkness, a decrease of 2 minutes and 46 seconds over last night.

Tomorrow, Good Friday, will be sunny, with a high of 64 degrees at 4pm. Six degrees above normal. Calm wind becoming north around 5 mph in the afternoon. Sounds like it’s going to be a pretty nice day. A year ago, we had sunny skies and a high of 58 degrees. The record high of 83 was set in 1968. 1.4 inches of snow fell back in 1950.

For Saturday, a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 2pm and 5pm, then a chance of showers after 5pm. Increasing clouds, with a high near 63. Light south wind increasing to 11 to 16 mph in the morning. Winds could gust as high as 26 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms. Maximum dew point of 44 at 9pm. 

On Easter, a slight chance of showers, then scattered showers and thunderstorms after 2pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 81. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms. Maximum dew point of 55 at 8pm.

Typical average high for the weekend is 58 degrees.

It wasn’t a terrible day but it was rather chaotic at times. I think I made it through the day okay but there was a few brushes against disaster but I think I’ll be fine. I need to push back politely with people when they become too demanding on things. I don’t always have to take calls too or answer emails right away. 

I have Good Friday off which is good because I’m tired after this week. I want to work on wiring up the truck cap and the rest of the things set up and tested for camping this week. I will probably go grocery shopping on Monday and maybe leave Tuesday after work or maybe hold off for Wednesday. I’m undecided. 

I was noticing how green the grass has gotten in both Delmar and in the city. Some trees are starting to blossom, but no leaves except on some of that awful, invasive honeysuckle that tends to take over in all scrubby places in the woods along the roadsides. Spring will come to the Albany-area eventually. We had some sun for a while, then it clouded up and cleared for dusk. 

While models of the Southern Adirondack snow pack show significant snow in parts of the Southern Adirondacks, with the weekends rains and warmer temperatures, it’s expected to be almost entirely gone. That said, already the North Country is free of snow, and most of the Adirondacks should be melted by the time I get up there. But I don’t want to get far off blacktop this time of year, especially with the rain, as everything is probably mud and muck. April camping kind of sucks this time of year, with all of the mud. Plus I expect it to be fairly cold and wet at least from Thursday into Friday. Well, I know to proceed slowly, and get out and walk the road before I drive it if there is any question. I’m not getting stuck in the mud. Buck no!

I’m thinking on Wednesday or Thursday, hitting up Horseshoe Lake for a night, and maybe hiking back to Lows Ledge. The rough but asphalt NY 421 is plowed all the way back to Horseshoe Lake, although the road to Hitchens Pond is closed for the spring mud season. The snow is gone up there from the map but you never know with drifts. It’s been a number of years since I’ve been up that way, and it would be fun to explore. Off-season I probably have my choice of sites on Hitchens Pond, and if I paddle from Horseshoe Outlet to Hitchens Pond, it could be quite nice. But it might also have things blocking the way, so I might avoid it due to water that is still pretty cold.

Later in the week into the weekend I’m thinking about the Deer River area in Malone if the road is passable. I don’t remember it being soft but if it looks risky I’m not going to try it. There are other places to explore and fish. Fishing the Deer River though kind of excites me. Such a beautiful part of the state, mostly unknown around here.  As I noted yesterday, might camp at the Walter Pratt area. I think I would prefer that as I have better cell reception there and those campsites have outhouses and picnic tables. There are some state forests like Wolf Lake State Forest, I’d love to see in St. Lawrence County. The power project and paddling part of the St. Lawrence River might be fun too. Then maybe come back through the Black River Valley and camp in the Otter Creek area, assuming the road is open this time of year.  I should call the DEC in Lowville on Monday to find out. I’m thinking that Eatonville Road is probably still very soft this time of year if it’s open at all. Maybe I should plan to come back through the Adirondacks and camp somewhere there like Jones Pond. 

In four weeks on May 11 the sun will be setting at 8:07 pm, which is 31 minutes and 26 seconds later then tonight. In 2016 on that day, we had mostly sunny skies and temperatures between 75 and 40 degrees. Typically, you have temperatures between 68 and 46 degrees. The record high of 90 degrees was set back in 1911.

Looking ahead, the Start of June is in 7 weeks. Lots of weeks of Black Fly Season ahead. 

November 24, 2015 update

As we move through the 9 o’clock hour, we are at about the freezing temperature. I got somewhat of a late start this morning as I was not used to waking up to the cold and having to climb out of bed to turn up the heat. Camping can spoil you.

It was a beautiful trip up through the Adirondacks on Friday. I haven’t been up to Plattsburgh in years and haven’t driven the Adirondack Northway in late fall on a clear day in years. The Greens and Northern Adirondack Mountains were crystal clear, driving along the Northway. If there were more legal spots to stop along the Northway and I had more free time, I would have stopped and grabbed more pictures. Photos are nice, but I always have memories too.

Without my phone working I didn’t have have Waze, so no advanced warnings of police traps. I normally rely on the Waze speedometer, as the truck’s speedometer is off, especially as you increase in speed. I blew past of famous police traps in Keeseville, as you descend past Pok-o-Moonshine, around 64 mph on the Big Red speedometer which is over 70 in real speed. I saw cop glance at his radar unit but he didn’t stop me. I eased off the gas for the rest of the trip.

Finally make it to Plattsburgh a little after 12:30, then stopped at Gander Mountain to look around in buy some 20-gauge deer slugs. I knew I wasn’t necessarily going to drop a deer while I was up there, but figured it would be better to have them not. I was annoyed that they asked to see my drivers license and took down my license number when I bought them. Its just kind of creepy, especially as Cuomo hasn’t implemented his ammunition database, as I don’t really like the idea of government or a private business keeping track of what I’m buying. I don’t have to give them my drivers license to buy almost everything else like beer and cigarettes, especially now that I look well over 21 years of age.

Stopped at Plattsburgh State and walked around. Even with my jacked up truck, finding street parking was not difficult on Drapper Ave. There always seems to be parking there. A lot has changed and a lot has remained the same on campus. There was a new building on Drapper Avenue, which made me almost miss my turn to that road. Hawkins Hall is mostly the same. The Hudson Hall Annex is new but that was under construction. They are demolishing and rebuilding the elevated walkway around campus. I was hoping to stop by the Political Science department and see some of my old professors but the department was all closed up. They may have been teaching classes. It seemed like there was a lot more African Americans on campus then I remember from back when I went there. They recruit from all over the state, and recently have been offering free tuition to local students who have an ‘A’ average. Snapped a few pictures for memory’s sake.

Stopped at the Plattsburgh Municipal Library so I could get on the wifi to try to switch over phone to an old but partially working phone. While the StraightTalk website was up, it took a while to figure out how to make it work for that purpose. At first I could not figure out how to switch to an old phone, but eventually got it to work. Killed probably another half hour doing this, and by the time I was back to my truck it was quarter to 2 PM.

I had previously planned to leave Plattsburgh no later then 2 PM. This would get me to either the Deer River area or CC Dam Association / Brasher State Forest camping areas before 4 PM or somewhere there around depending if I had to make any stops. I did have enough time for a quick trip over to Point Au Rouche, but by then I was pushing 2 PM so basically I went to the beach, walked out on it too and snapped a quick few shots. Not having my phone to give me directions, I wanted to make sure I left plenty of time to get up there, lest I get lost or have to drive in the darkness. I was finding my way exclusively by memory of six years ago and the times I’ve made maps of state forests and studied road maps. Fortunately I have pretty good map memory.

NY 190 was as boring and congested route as always. There was two different speed traps on the road but I limited my speed and kept my truck a safe distance from cars ahead of me which were constantly stopping and turning. The sky turned gray over this super boring road in Indian and wild hillbilly country out by Altona. The wind and then snow squall picked up. It was frigid by the time I arrived in Malone. At least the snow wasn’t sticking at that point as the mercury still read about 35 degrees.

To be continued. I’m near my destination stop.

October 12, 2015 update

Monday, Columbus Day was my first full day in West Virginia. It was a beautiful day with deep blue skies throughout the day and pretty good colors, at least at the middle elevations. The valleys were still somewhat green and by the time I got up to Dolly Sods, it was well past peak – but still amazingly beautiful. Still no cellphone service, so all of the blog posts from my trip will be posted late. Made a good breakfast of scrambled eggs with Shantung (?) mushrooms that I bought on Saturday afternoon at the farm stand in Coudersport, PA. They were delicious. Sat back and enjoyed the beautiful morning up on the big open campsite at had on Forest Road 13.

I liked the campsite so much, I seriously thought about camping back up there again – although it was a bit far north from my tentatively planned route. I woke up early but didn’t really rush around. I probably should have stayed later in the bed, but I’ve gotten into the habit lately of getting up early. Which is not a good thing because at the same time I’ve been getting up early, I’ve been staying up late. So by evening I’ve been tired. But not having to travel a lot of miles today, I figured to take it easy.

West Virginia Roads are crazy. They are all so narrow, so steep, and so twisty. When people say roads in West Virginia wind and wind, it’s true. But it’s the with of the roads, the lack of guard rails, the speed of other local drivers, that make driving around here kind of hair raising. Most of the secondary roads are little more then a lane wide, and when two vehicles have to pass, they have to virtually come to a stop.

This one road I was on, Virginia Route 32/2 in Lanesville, was a crazy 13-15 feet wide road (about the size of a typical interstate lane), except with two lane traffic sharing that one lane. Virigina 32/4 road was so narrow – that while it had a guard rail – the guard rail was hanging off the edge of the cliff. Lot of traffic too. Both cars had to basically stop to pass each time. I don’t think I have ever driven so many miles with my truck locked into first gear, or smelled my brakes burning a couple of times. After getting down one mountain pass, I felt like a could cook a turkey by placing it next to my wheel well. I tried not to ride the brakes, but I had to control my speed on these steep, twisty, narrow decent. Roads labeled Main_Route/SubRoute are scariest to drive in West Virigina by far. If you want white knuckle driving in West Virginia look for a route labeled like West Virigina 32/4.

Driving up to Dolly Sods is another crazy climb. Again, your 15 feet wide typical West Virginia Road, with no guard rail and steep descent off the side. At least the Dolly Sods road is relatively straight, with some long mile long climbs, where you go up 1,000 feet every mile or so. Dolly Sods is about 3,000 or so feet above the valley, so three miles of craziness. Fortunately, not a lot of people coming in the opposite direction. Still, I was happy enough to drive off the mountain later in the afternoon, again in low gear, then eventually down-shifting into 4×4 low, because I didn’t want to overheat the brakes. Maybe my fear of destroying the brakes on these hills is not rational – the brakes just passed inspection and aren’t making any unusual noises or have any problems that I know of – but brakes are something that scare me a lot on cars.

Brakes are designed to turn forward motion into heat to slow the vehicle. They are designed to have a lot of stopping power in their lifetimes, and modern brakes don’t fade severely until they get very, very hot. I’ve had too many brake problems on old junky cars and trucks, so using the brakes extensively puts a lot of fear in me. And I’ve watched too many Wiley Coyote and Road-Runner shows as a kid, and movies where cars drive off the shoulder, and roll dozens of times, not to be found deep in the hollow for month later. Or as usually happens in movies in California, a big truck rear-ends you, pushing you off the side of the hill, leaving you for death. I think that happened in the movie the China syndrome. Fortunately, I did not any roadrunners along the way, nor any coyotes. I did have a deer run out in front of me on one of those insane decent, but I applied the brakes firmly and aimed the wheels away from the edge of the cliff of death. Plus crazy locals racing past in opposite directions, because the traveled lane in West Virigina primarily exists for one vehicle going in one direction, and the other vehicle takes half of the shoulder where it exists. Even in the valleys, on major arterials, most roads are like 10 feet wide with a gravel shoulder that often ends for narrow culverts or other inconveniences that the DOT couldn’t be bothered to re-engineer for safety. Probably the widest, most modern arterials I’ve been on West Virginia – like parts of US 219 and WV 32 have no more then two 11 feet lanes and a foot shoulder. Certainly not the modern NYSDOT standard of 13-14 foot lanes and 8 foot shoulder.

Freaking insane driving down here.

Despite the awful drive, Dolly Sods is stunningly beautiful. That’s the only way you can describe it. In the autumn the vast, lush fields of blueberries mixed with occasional deciduous trees and surrounding mountains is nothing short of stunning. I hope the pictures I took today came out, because it was a stunning place, from the narrow dirt road to the beauty in all directions.

Looking down off Dolly Sands, you could see the various Blue Ridges, with some color still on them. Their is a campground on top of Dolly Sands and some roadside campsites about a 1 mile below Dolly Sods, but I didn’t want to spend the night up there, with potentially bad weather coming with a front coming through. Those roads are insane enough without them being muddy. Ankle hurt a little bit after stepping funny up there. I have my ankle brace I may put on tomorrow before hiking.

After I made it down from Dolly Sods, the drive on WV 55/4 wasn’t that bad. It was blacktop and had two lanes of at least 10 feet wide. Some crazy curbs and decents, and no place to pull off, but at least I wasn’t sharing a lane. WV 55/4 even had guard rails when it climbed down a mountain. And WV 55 running through the valley actually had nice big lanes and you could go in the straightaways 55 miles per hour. Of course, there was heavy truck traffic on it, and people weren’t happy that I was going cautiously around the curbs and only speeding up to 55 on the straightaways.

Eventually I found a place I could pull off and let traffic go by. Drove down to Seneca Rocks Visitor Center, hoping to find a payphone to call my folks to let them I doing okay, despite the white knuckle driving and no cell service up here, anywheres that I’ve been in West Virigina or Western Maryland. The Seneca Rocks Visitor Center is only open Wednesday through Saturday after September, so it was all closed up. Seneca Rocks was stunning. No payphone to be found here, but then I found a payphone at a general store that looked like a store out of Deliverance or maybe the Easy Rider.

I should have gone in and bought some milk that couldn’t have been that old but I was cheesed off about a call being $1, so I decided to hold off on calling my parents. I would have been fascinated to hear the accents – would they be strong, would they be Mid-western or Southern Applachian sounding? They’ll be startled enough to get a call from me, rather then just seeing a Facebook update. Seneca Rocks is a stunning view, especially right now with color peaking around it. I almost want to hike up Seneca Rocks and look down from it, but I don’t know if I will be back up that way or if my ankle will tolerate it.

I decided in the evening to head over to Gandy River dispersed campsites as shown on the map. I decided to take Forest Route 7 over from WV Route 55. Forest Route 7 was a nice drive, actually fairly wide, following an old creek, until the valley got narrower and the road got steeper and started to drop down to 15 feet or less, with a steep embankment. But I made it up there.

Then to get to Gandy, I had to take WV 33/2,
which much like it’s name suggested it was about 13-15 foot wide for both directions with a steep drop off and no guard rail. I think it only dropped 1,500 feet in a mile or so heading into Gandy. I didn’t realize I was in Gandy or the road to the campsites and ended up going north for 5 miles until I found a place to safely pull off of WV 33 and study the map.

When I realized from the map that the road to campsites was relatively flat, I figured I would turn around and drive 5 miles back south and eventually to the campsites. I don’t mind driving in the valleys – the roads tend to be somewhat wider and less scary there, even if they still have crazy curves that you have to watch out. The campsite I got on Gandy River looked pretty nice but once I started to set up the trees didn’t really work for a tarp, so I decided against setting up a tarp.

Rain is expected later tonight, but not until late, so I don’t really need the tarp. I’ll just make sure anything that could be damaged by getting wet is put away. And make sure to retire to bed before it the rain comes. Right now, it’s just starry out so the front must be a ways away. It’s supposed to be a quick clipper with a burst of rain over night with clearing out by afternoon.

Tomorrow morning ain’t supposed to be nice,
but a good chance to catch up on sleep. The campsite is not totally out of ear shot of another campsite a ¼ mile down the road, so I’ve had to keep the music down. I like West Virginia just not the driving. The scenery is outstanding. But I’ve had an enough with the white knuckle driving. I need supplies and food, so I need to get to a city with a grocery store, if at all possible.

I’m seriously thinking of heading east tomorrow and if it’s decent getting out on the Blue Ridge Parkway.
The Blue Ridge Parkway is no expressway but it’s at least two lanes wide and probably not nearly as steep or narrow as so many of the roads in West Virginia. The state of Virigina is much wealthier then West Virginia, so I suspect their roads are much wider and less scary to drive, even if some of them climb right up mountains. I was planning on spending one more day in West Virigina, but if the weather is decent, I could really get into checking out the Parkway – possibly heading farther south then expected.

Thursday and Friday, heading north to Shenandoah National Park to do Skyline Drive. That said, I’m still kind of disappointed that West Virginia isn’t as wild or backwards as I expected. Honestly, at least the part of West Virginia I’ve been in is no different then most of rural Upstate NY. If anything, the houses are somewhat nicer down here. Probably money goes farther down here, and people can afford nicer cars and yards.

There are some shacks, but nothing like what you see in Western NY and other chronically depressed parts of New York. Maybe I’m just not in the right part of West Virginia, despite this portion of the state not having much in the way of gas stations, stores, or businesses. I think a lot of the houses in this part of West Virginia are second homes, and it’s more tourists from Virginia then real Appalachia.

Maybe I need to go farther south in the National Forest to see real Appalachia. I think I’ve seen far more rural poverty in parts of Pennsylvania then down here.