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Camping Log

New York Land Cover

January – June 2011.

Roadside: 9, Tent: 1, Leanto: 0 nights …

Date Campsite Where Type Notes
06/19/11 Campsite On Forest Road 70 Near Lye Wilderness Forest Road 70, Green Mountains NF, Kelley Stand, VT Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Hiked towards Big Alder, but couldn’t cross stream. Rainy day, did a little paddling in Powley Place. Nicer day on Memorial Day
06/04/11 Campsite On Back Side of Stockmans Island Stockmans Island, Hudson River State Park, NY Tent camping after paddling in on kayak Put in at Coxscakie Boat Launch, camped on an island in Hudson River.
05/29/11 Powley Place (Campsite 9) Piseco-Powley Road, Ferris Lake Wild Forest, Stratford, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Hiked towards Big Alder, but couldn’t cross stream. Rainy day, did a little paddling in Powley Place. Nicer day on Memorial Day.
05/28/11 Powley Place (Campsite 9) Piseco-Powley Road, Ferris Lake Wild Forest, Stratford, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Rainy day. Hiked around Powley Place.
05/27/11 Powley Place (Campsite 9) Piseco-Powley Road, Ferris Lake Wild Forest, Stratford, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Left work early, drove up there. Nice evening before the rain.
05/21/11 Cheney Pond Cheney Pond, Vanderwhacker Wild Forest, Newcomb, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Explored Vanderwhacker Wild Forest. Kayaked around Cheney Pond couple of times, explored Tawandus Ruins.
05/20/11 Fox Lair Campsite NY Route 8, Wilcox Lake Wild Forest, Bakers Mills, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Much nicer this time, a little rain, things greened up. Got a little rain, very damp.
04/22/11 Fox Lair Campsite NY Route 8, Wilcox Lake Wild Forest, Bakers Mills, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Woke up to 3” of cold wet snow and rain, decided to go home and abandon trip.
04/21/11 Gravel Pit Campsite NY Route 8, Wilcox Lake Wild Forest, Griffin, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Cold morning, trees covered with ice. Hike up around part of 13th Lake near North Creek, NY
04/09/11 Moscow Hill Horse Camp Brookfield State Forest aka Charles Baker State Forest, Brookfield, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge One other camper here, no equestrians this time of year. Wanted to camp on Cherry Ridge, however too much snow there.

Getting Out and Stretch

March – December 2010.

Roadside: 28, Tent: 2, Leanto: 1 nights …

Date Campsite Where Type Notes
12/4/10 Old NY 8 Wilcox Lake Wild Forest, Griffin, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Very cold. Ice and snow on truck in morning. Kind of close to NY 8, but all the best campsites taken by hunters.
11/12/10 Lower Assembly Area Sugar Hill State Forest, Watkins Glen, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Woke up surrounded by Horse Trailers and equestrians in morning. Assembly area was closed this time of year, but horse trails still widely used.
11/11/10 Informal campsite on Forest Road 151 Allegheny National Forest, Near Sayre, PA Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Second night at Allegheny National Forest. I liked the site I stayed in the previous day a lot, and the days where too short (sunset at 4:45 PM), so no time to waste searching for a site.
11/10/10 Informal campsite on Forest Road 151 Allegheny National Forest, Near Bradford, PA Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Many sites in Allegheny National Forest. This one I particularly liked, so I decided to stay there.
11/09/10 Aspah Run Camping Area Aspah, near Wellsboro, PA Roadside camping (in pickup truck): paid primitive area Decided due to a lack of a time due to early sunset, would have done roadside/back country camping, but for $10, and being alone, it was fine.
11/08/10 Aspah Run Camping Area Aspah, near Wellsboro, PA Roadside camping (in pickup truck): paid primitive area Camped here, because I didn’t want to camp back country, and didn’t know the area well enough.
11/07/10 Lower Assembly Area Sugar Hill State Forest, Watkins Glen, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Originally wanted to camp at Birds Eye Lake or something like that, but the map I had got me lost, and I couldn’t find the road campsite up there.
11/06/10 Campsite 7 Stoney Pond State Forest, Madison, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Frost/ice on puddles in morning. Some snow in some places.
09/05/10 Campsite 56 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Rain showers, enjoyed staying in a very private and quite campsite up in the sandy plains.
09/04/10 Campsite 56 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Hiked to Mitchells Pond. More rain. It was kind of wet and cold.
09/03/10 Campsite 56 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Kind of wet and rainy, hung out in camp, did a little exploring of the plains. Also, paddled in Cedar River Flow for a while. Enjoyed the very private drive in site here.
09/02/10 Campsite 2 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge I left work at 5 PM…. but with traffic, and wanting to get a pizza to eat on the way up, didn’t get to Moose River Plains until after 9 PM. Very dark, very tired, just wanted a place to collapse.
08/28/10 An Designated Campsite Big Pond, near Margretville, NY Kayak in Primitive Campsite: no charge Did a little hiking an exploring around Ashfield Pinnacle, then drove south to Big Pond. Lantern did not work, a very dark night.
08/27/10 Betty Brook Campsite Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Schoharie, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Nice night after work…. drove around Mallet Pond State Forest, looking for campsites and interesting places to explore.
08/14/10 Mountain Pond Campsite 4 Mountain Pond, Paul Smiths, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Last day of NY 30 Kayak vacation. Mountain Pon was nice, very remote, just off of NY 30.
08/13/10 Floodwood Road Campsite 3 Floodwood Road, Fish Creek Ponds, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Crowded, stayed down by Poliwog Pond… wouldn’t go there again.
08/12/10 Horseshoe Lake Campsite 8 (about a ½ mile from lake) NY 421, Horseshoe Lake, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Couldn’t get a site right on Horseshoe Lake. Discovered Lows Lake – amazing.
08/11/10 Wakely Pond Campsite 7 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Wanted to paddle Cedar River Flow and enjoy camping up near water …
08/10/10 Undesigned Campsite, west side of road Mason Lake, Spectulator, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge First day of kayak vacation, as I drove up from work, decided to go somewheres not too far away …
07/31/10 Undesigned Campsite, west side of road Mason Lake, Spectulator, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Hiked to Pillsbury Mountain Firetower, then camped down at Mason Lake.
07/18/10 Otter Brook Campsite (MRP Number 110) Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped by the Otter Brook Bridge, at a rather large campsite. Not my favorite campsite, and it poured out.
07/17/10 Wakely Pond Campsite 8 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped down by Cedar River Flow, in a drive in site, a short way from the Flow, but also pretty private.
07/16/10 Wakely Pond Campsite 8 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped down by Cedar River Flow, in a drive in site, a short way from the Flow, but also pretty private.
07/15/10 Wakely Pond Campsite 8 Moose River Plains, Inlet, Adirondacks, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped down by Cedar River Flow, in a drive in site, a short way from the Flow, but also pretty private.
06/27/10 Balsam Swamp Camping Area Site 3 Balsam Pond, East East Pharsalia, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Came back to here, after exploring Labrador Hollow.
06/26/10 Balsam Swamp Camping Area Site 3 Balsam Pond, East East Pharsalia, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Stop over between Burnt-Rossman and Labrador Hollow. Liked camping here in the past.
06/25/10 Duck Pond Campsite Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Summit, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped up a Duck Pond for a change, after driving out here after work.
06/05/10 Leonard Hill Informal Overlook and Campsite Leonard Hill, Broome Center, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped up by the Firetower at an informal campsite, watched sun set, weather turned to rain by morning …
06/04/10 Betty Brook Campsite Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Schoharie, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Camped at Betty Brook, very humid, drove down to Utsaythana Firetower.
05/15/10 Alder Pond Campsite 2 Alder Pond, Balsam Lake Wild Forest, Margretville, NY Tent campsite…. short backpack in: no charge Camped at one of the campsites around Alder Pond.
04/03/10 Betty Brook Campsite Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Schoharie, NY Roadside camping, in a tent Didn’t have the cap on my truck yet, but wanted to roadside camp.
03/21/10 Cotton Hill Lean To Cotton Hill, Middleburgh Short backpack into a leanto There was about a foot of snow up by Cotton Hill Leanto on first day of spring, but due to abnormally warm weather, wasn’t all that cold until late into the night.

Campsite

August – October 2009.

Roadside: 3, Tent: 0, Leanto: 0 (thru August 2009) …

Date Campsite Where Type Notes
10/11/09 Betty Brook Campsite Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Schoharie, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge First really cold evening of the year, very much fall like. I didn’t bring my warm coat with me.
10/10/09 Betty Brook Campsite Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Schoharie, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge Fairly cold night, but not as bad as one might have thought. On way out, stopped at Leonard Hill to take some pictures.
08/08/09 Betty Brook – informal campsite along road Burnt-Rossman Hill State Forest, Schoharie, NY Roadside camping (in pickup truck): no charge After hiking Slide Mountain and Balsam Lake Firetower. Dead tired …
Map: Shindagin Hollow State Forest Ortho
Map: Severence Hill Trail

Kayaking Francis Lake

Near Number 4 is Francis Lake on Stillwater Road. It’s not the world’s largest lake, but it does offer some interesting kayaking with good views, as you paddle around this lake. There are some private inholdings along the lake, but most of the lake is pretty wild.

Swimming Hole Off Old Edick Road

Click above to download the high resolution version of map for printing…

Pictures of the Trip…

Putting Out on Francis Lake

 Water is Bit Choppy on Francis Lake

In a Calmer Bay of Francis Lake

Exploring Rear Portion of Francis Lake

Trees Along Edge of Francis Lake

2010 New York Census Population Maps

From the 2010 Census we get a good look at what the population looks like in Upstate NY. Upstate cities’ population was intentionally “bunched” together in reds to emphasize the difference in population, in the more suburban and rural communities surrounding the cities. If I had used absolute population coloring state wide, the rural countryside would be solidly blue, while upstate cities and largest suburbs would be orange, with only New York City being pink.

Long Pond Sign Along NY 41

As towns across the state vary some what in size, looking at population density is more accurate. That said, be aware how I “grouped” colors together to emphasize the difference in rural population, at the cost of merging vast differences in urban populations to shades of red and pink.

Notice the dark blues in the Adirondack and Catskill Parks, some representing large areas of state lands, others representing a lack of economic opporunity. Large areas of the upland Central Letherstocking Region, and Allegheny Plateau are also sparsely populated due to a lack of jobs, little agriculture due to poor upland soils, and large parcels of state land due to abandoned upslope farm land.

Indeed, a much of the modestly populated area in Mohawk Valley through the Buffalo-Niagara region, is called the state’s “Farm Belt”, with large amounts of agricultural activity — aka CAFOs and other large and highly productive dairy farms — on going due to large flat lands, with rich soil. Farming helps keep populations higher in those areas, as does reminence of the former industrial economy and connection the major upstate cities. Modern dairy farming is unproductive in other regions of state, except in alluvial valleys. Dairy farming regions of state, are typically have populations between 75-150 persons per square mile.

Juneteenth 2022 Weekend

The New York State Towns and Cities, ordered by size, then graphed on a population curve. It’s a pure J curve.

Tarbell Farms Historical Marker

A few years back I happened to visit the Citizens Environmental Coalition headquarters when they where pushing to ban burning of household garbage and other farm waste in rural areas in towns with populations less then 20,000, which was legal in many communities prior to 2009 action taken by administrative fiat by Governor Paterson on the urging of a certain NYPIRG lobbyist. They had something similiar to this map (they also excluded small cities and villages which I did not), showing that over 80% of the state it was legal — at least unless their was local laws prohibiting it. Most of Upstate NY could participate in this proud and smelly hick tradition!

Most of Upstate NY is included in this map as being in municipalities less 20,000. It’s quite remarkable to think how few towns in Upstate are actually larger then 20,000 and how directly representive many local governments are to their people — at least if the public chooses to get involved. It’s over 80% of the area in Upstate has populations less then 20,000.

Pond on Bearpen

And if we drop that number down to 5,000, you’ll find still 74.08% of state’s landmass is covered by towns less then 5,000 persons. That’s pretty remarkable. There are 1.3 million people who live in those 639 little hick towns in NY State, covered by forest lands and farms. While I don’t have block-sized population data for entire state, you can imagine most of that population probably lives in small towns and villages, and only a smaller minority lives spread out in the countryside.

Twighlight at Camp

Still, raw population of mucipalities is not a very good predictor of the rural nature of a town. It might mean consituents of a small town have access to their local government officials, but it does not neccessarly mean that town is spread out. In contrast, if you look only at towns with average land per capita, exceeding 10 acres, you get a good view of truly rural communities. Now, people in rural towns with 10 acres a piece do not all have to own 10 acres individually, but it does mean such towns have a lot of farming or forest activites going on, and many people are very well spread out. It’s a lot of Upstate NY, outside of cities and Mohawk-Niagara farm belt.

Before I Killed the Lights

And for the Capital Region, showing except for the city, there is a lot of open forest and farm land.

Not Dark While Washing Dishes

… Upstate New York is very rural.

SVGZ Graphic: Control of State Government - By Percentage of US Population
SVGZ Graphic: State Legislature Representation

Why is NYSERDA in the Pine Bush?

One of the things that bothers me is that NYSERDA, the New Yor State Energy Research and Development Corporation is located in the Albany Pine Bush in Corporate Circle, in a location primarily serviced by automobiles with minimal if any bus service through the CDTA ShuttleBee. Based on NYSERDA’s location, it is highly unlikely that any employees or visitors ever come to it using mass-transit. Most employees use gas guzzling private automobiles.

NYSERDA in the Pine Bush

Plenty of Real Estate Downtown,
Much Free to Use…

At the same time, there is a large amount of vacant office space downtown, that should be put into use. It’s quite possible that there would be sufficient room to move all of NYSERDA’s operations to a portion of 625 Broadway, home to the Department of Environmental Conservation and Environmental Facilities Corporation. With recent layoffs and the hiring freeze, there probably is ample space in there.

If not, as New York Times recently documented, the 12 floors of the Corning Tower that are currently sitting vacant would be an ideal place for NYSERDA. Quite a bit of scientific research and bureaucratic work gets done in the Corning Tower by the Health Department and Health Services Corporation, and it seems only natural for a public corporation like NYSERDA to consider locating to this location.

Alternatively, NYSERDA could consider renting a private building downtown like the Arcade Building. Many of these buildings have been vacant for a long time, and it’s possible that the rent they could get is far below what they paid for the sprawl rent in the Albany Pine Bush. While they wouldn’t get the parking spaces next to their offices downtown, what they would trade that in for would be less air pollution and lower energy consumption.

NYSERDA's Green Building

NYSERDA Should Be Setting an Example …

Rather then focusing on super-cars that only wealthy state bureaucracies can afford, they should be focusing on promoting compact communities serviced by mass-transit. While NYSERDA can’t force it’s employees to live in Albany, nor should it necessarily do as such, it can promote the benefit of having a workforce that works downtown in a highly energy efficient fashion.

The agency can promote the ease and convenience of working downtown, along with the energy and time savings. By not including significant parking in their relocation, they encourage employees and visitors to come using mass transit. NYSERDA could go farther and educate all existing and new employees about the many Park and Ride sites and bus service in the Capital Region, along with providing discount or free bus passes to all employees and visitors.

We need to think seriously about investing more into mass-transit . Transit is the future for our urban-areas, and all large employers of the future need to be located near transit lines that are regularly serviced, and reduce employee’s commuting distances.

… NYSERDA: It’s About Making Smart Energy Choices.

Gazing at Beautiful Columbia Circle

Open Pine Bush

Home Savings Bank Buildings

Map: Thirteenth Lake
Map: Boreas River