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Keeping moving forward 👣

One of my fears is that I will get stuck in the process of buying land and building a cabin on it. In many ways, it’s a much more complicated and drawn out process then simply looking at a house, going through a well established path of real estate agents, title searches, house inspection, and traditional mortgage but it also turns out not to be an impossible project without many construction skills or equipment.

In some ways buying raw or minimally developed land (such as an old trailer site or badly damaged home with some infrastructure), especially with cash is a much harder road to hoe. While I haven’t totally written off getting a mortgage — there are tax benefits, namely you can reduce your total income by the amount you pay in mortgage interest — the cost of money these days makes it seem like a waste. And I worry about getting ripped off, and regulatory issues more generally as all of this world is very new and complicated to me. I’ve always preferred to pay with cash, it’s generally cheaper though it will involve cashing out stocks and paying a shit ton of Capital Gains taxes.

Where I am today

Right now I am at the stage at studying parcels that are currently on the market and giving it some thought. What is out there without a home? What are the prices? How far from work? How close to neighbors or potential neighbors who could complain about things to the town? Since drafting my first draft of the homestead and cabin on Saturday, I think I have a better idea — the priority being having the right redneck kind of neighbors, general distance from neighbors, ability to homestead with livestock and have bonfires, ride an ATV around the property, heat with wood, compost, garden and use on-site solar to avoid being tied to growing expense of the dirty power of the electrical grid. Buy and build what I actually want, even if that’s somewhat more expensive then I’d like to spend and not what other people want from the property.

I’m teaching myself LibreCAD so I can draw my vision for the home and the property that I want in a way that is presentable to potential sellers or their real estate agents, town building officials, and architects. I am not a very good hand drawer, and knowing at least some CAD and floor plan design drawing techniques will be good to illustrate my vision to the appropriate people. While I am sure not all of my ideas can be implemented due to regulatory and cost reasons, being able to have a clear idea of what I want on paper, in an easily readable form will make it much easier to obtain what I want.

Maybe the best way to judge my progress is to have a rough time table :

Going forward

Late Winter 2024
- Apply for conventional mortgage to learn more about the process, see what credit resources are available and investigate conventional properties in rural areas sold by conventional realtors.
- Read library books on the process of buying a home
- Start the conversation with friends about what their experience is on buying rural land and homesteads, what resources they used, what contractors and banks they utilized
- Draft up on paper what I am thinking I want my “practical dream” homestead and house would like so I can present my idea to various friends, colleagues, realtors, and town officials.
- Change from buying additional stock to saving in an a high-interest savings account
Spring 2024
- Turn my paper draft of what my “practical dream” homestead into a CAD project that I can present to others to get feedback.
- Learn more about the process of building a home by reading and talking to people, specifically the process of working with an architect, getting town approval, selecting a quality, reliable contractor.
- Learn more about building materials and methods, including what is the latest in affordable off-grid solar.
- Continue to study properties on the market and tax records, write code to analyze the pros and cons of various properties.
- Grab the latest list of tax-delinquent properties from the county, match against county tax maps and records, and see if there are properties worth pursuing. Write owners listed on tax records via certified mail.
- Drive the back roads, looking for abandoned or vacant properties then pulling up their owners from the tax records, searching to the internet to see if the owner passed away or what the story is about the reasons for being abandoned. Write owners listed on tax records via certified mail.
Summer 2024
- Develop a list of properties that meet my desired criteria and have been preliminarily vetted using publicly available GIS data like tax maps, LiDAR, orthophotography — new and old. Run my analysis code on the slope and direction of the land, along with consulting DEC wetland maps, distance to other properties, especially other homes, and other potential nuisances such as junk yards, barnyards, dumping grounds.
- Reach out to property owners and realtors to confirm the property is still available and to get tours of the land, sharing my vision for the land.
- Work with an architect to draft plans for the cabin
- Develop a short list of contractors to build the home
- Develop a short list of companies to drill the well, put in the road/improve the road, put in the septic tank and leach field
- Meet with town officials to discuss my vision for the property, including showing a draft architectural drawing, or at least my own concept
Fall/Winter 2024
- Work to close the deal on the land after title searches, consulting with a real estate lawyer, getting the land perc tested for septic, speaking to neighbors about their experience with drilling wells and other potential nuisance concerns with the land, such as something they’ve heard about the land like dumped toxins or flooding that is non-obvious from public records and GIS data.
- Do not renew my certificate of deposit but keep those funds in a Savings Account, possibly start cashing out some of the stocks and bonds I have saved, reserving funds to cover Capital Gains taxes.
- Try to close the deal on property, paying with cash if possible. While I will have to pay a full year’s worth of taxes on the undeveloped property, having it on the bag with tentative approval for the cabin for plans would make it worth it.
- Potentially have some infrastructure work done on the property — improving the road, water well, septic, etc. Might make sense to wait until the new year due to delay Capital Gains tax hit.
Late Winter/Spring 2025
- End my lease for the rented apartment and move out onto the land, camping or using my truck camper (assuming this is allowed — it’s possible at that point that Big Red will be replaced but can be taken off the road, used for hauling gear around the site and camping out of).
- Live on the land, getting to know it well. Maybe get chickens and rabbits for eggs and mea, a shed to store things including the well pump and gasoline generator.
- Have finished the infrastructure improvements, especially the driveway/roadway to cabin, site foundation.
- Work on getting the septic and water put in.
- Work with contractor to get town permits secured to build the cabin.
Summer 2025
- Work with the contractor to have the cabin built to the point it’s habitable with water and septic and plumbing but not fully complete inside, work with building inspector to get certificate of occupancy based on minimal legal completion
- Get the cabin to the point where it’s waterproof and secure, start to move inside
Fall/Winter 2025
- Get woodstove and propane heaters professionally installed and up to code
- Have cabin fully insulated and ready for winter so pipes don’t freeze and I have a comfortable place to spend the winter
- While I don’t anticipate having the solar done at this point, I can string up extension cords from the gas generator, a few small solar panels and batteries, use small portable lighting through the winter — rather live “without electricity” for a winter to really get to know the land and spread out the tax costs
- Finalize the design of the solar equipment, inverter, and batteries
- Work on completing parts of the interior such as flooring and walls, working with an electrician to do the breaker box, while doing some of electrical wiring myself with review of the electrician and town building inspector.
2026
- Have internal electrical wiring and fixtures finished and approved by the electrician and building inspector.
- Obtain, mount and install solar panels, inverter, batteries.
- Work to complete inside walls and flooring
- Secure a full-size, energy efficient 120 volt refrigerator and full-size gas oven and range for the kitchen
2027
- Add additional solar panels to the system
- Add a chest freezer for storage of meat in unheated shed or building overhang
- Build a shed or small barn, start adding goats and/or maybe hogs to the homestead
- Various site improvements

Final month of twenty twenty three 🗓

Maybe it’s too soon to declare it time to stick a fork in it, but the writing is on the wall about the year. Looking at the rising sun taking the express bus downtown as it’s going to turn to rain by rush hour this evening. Listening to that Smash Mouth song, Waiting on the Sun — that I remember fondly hearing on the radio rolling down Interstate 99 at 73 mph heading past Tyrone Penna on the way to West Virginia. Thinking as the year comes to a close, won’t be that much longer that I’ll be working downtown, a big change after the two decades that was.

Good morning! December starts out sunny and mild but quickly fades to rain by evening. Mostly sunny ☀ and 36 degrees in Delmar, NY. There is a south-southeast breeze at 6 mph. 🍃. Temperatures will drop below freezing at Tuesday around 2 am. ☃️

Doesn’t look like I’ll need much of the central heat this weekend 🌧️ though maybe I’ll want the space heater and electric blanket as it’s going to be cool and damp. 🍞 Planning on making more bread and pea soup tomorrow morning bright and early.

Today started out a little bit later then normal 🛏 sleeping into around five thirty, which is late by my standards. Ran some onions, spinach, broccoli and eggs 🥚 through the food processor, tossed oil into a frying 🍳 pan and that was breakfast. Not a half bad breakfast. Kind of a sleepy this morning 😴, kind of had a rough night sleeping, which is unusual lately since I switched to rising early.

Maybe I could have biked to work today, 🚲 but they’re expecting fairly heavy rain by evening. 🌧 I didn’t really feel like grabbing my bike at end of day, unlocking it and loading it on the bus in the pouring rain. Didn’t seem like a fun way to enjoy my day. The thing is not much longer to ride the bike to work, as when I move to the new office in the suburbs, I’ll be taking the shuttle from downtown, and they don’t have a bike rack on that.

Today will rain, mainly after 3pm. 🌧️ High of 47 degrees at 12pm. Four degrees above normal, which is similar to a typical day around November 22nd. South wind around 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New precipitation amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible. A year ago, we had cloudy skies. The high last year was 40 degrees. The record high of 67 was set in 1934. 13.3 inches of snow fell back in 2019.❄

Morning started out nice, but I am not expecting it to last. 🌦 Still a bit cool for walking on the plaza, so I’ve been doing laps inside, and now are heading up the stairs to my office. Figured I got to do the stairs as much as I can before I move on to my new office in suburbs with only a single flight of stairs. As I noted, until we get more sunlight in the evening, I don’t think I’ll be able to ride to work, though January would otherwise be tough with the snow and ice and bike trail. Not to mention the cold.

Solar noon 🌞 is at 11:45 am with sun having an altitude of 25.6° from the due south horizon (-45.2° vs. 6/21). A six foot person will cast a 12.5 foot shadow today compared to 2.2 feet on the first day of summer. The golden hour 🏅 starts at 3:40 pm with the sun in the southwest (233°). 📸 The sunset is in the west-southwest (241°) with the sun dropping below the horizon at 4:24 pm after setting for 3 minutes and 20 seconds with dusk around 4:54 pm, which is 20 seconds earlier than yesterday. 🌇 The best time to look at the stars is after 5:31 pm. At sunset, look for rain 🌧 and temperatures around 44 degrees. There will be a south breeze at 7 mph. Tomorrow will have 9 hours and 19 minutes of daytime, a decrease of one minute and 21 seconds over today.

Yesterday, I went out to lunch with the colleagues 🍔 🍣 at the fancy swanky War Room restaurant across from the Albany Capitol Center. I’m just glad I wasn’t paying for lunch and it was on the company credit card. Being the hillbilly of the group, 👩‍🌾 I always order the worse thing on menu — I got the Buffalo Burger, which despite the delicious sounding description menu, came out looking like a sad McDonald’s hamburger with a not-so-good sauce. I should have ordered the sushi lunch — the sushi appetizers I had were delicious. Would have been more healthy omega-3 fats too compared to that rather nasty $26 burger. I thought for that price, it would be a big-beefy burger with a good bun and excellent fries, none of which was true. So if you’re a big shot politico and lobbyist, and you go to the War Room, only order the sushi. Consider this to be your warning, especially if you’re a hillbilly like me.

That said, I’m kind of glad to be moving to the new office in North Albany 🏢 away from the craziness of Downtown Albany and all the political things. I have a feeling once I’m up in North Albany working I won’t get invited to all these lunches and political events downtown, and can just focus on the data science work for work, running lists and calculations 📄, and not all these real political social things. 👪 I often prefer to work in solitude, get things done, produce results and avoid the politicing and social stuff. I’m kind of an introvert.

Tonight will rain likely, mainly before 10pm. Cloudy 🌧, with a low of 36 degrees at 4am. Nine degrees above normal, which is similar to a typical night around November 2nd. South wind around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. In 2022, we had mostly clear skies in the evening, which became mostly clear by the early hours of the morning. It got down to 31 degrees. The record low of -2 occurred back in 1875.

Dreary evening ahead, 📖 but I’ll get home and cook up some salmon in the oven 🐠 and then get a book out to read and do some of the Udemny course on machine learning 🤖 and head to bed early 🛌 seeking the warm of my heated blanket. My heat is off for now, I don’t need it if going to be above freezing, I’d rather just have a warm bed and warm food. I like living on the cooler side of things, it makes winter camping all them more delightful. ❄️

Tomorrow will be mostly cloudy 🌥, with a high of 49 degrees at 12pm. Six degrees above normal, which is similar to a typical day around November 17th. South wind around 6 mph becoming northwest in the afternoon. A year ago, we had cloudy skies. The high last year was 41 degrees. The record high of 66 was set in 1998. 6.8 inches of snow fell back in 2019.❄

Staying in town this weekend. 🏘 Probably stay home on Saturday, go down to the library for a while. 💻 And then maybe to Walmart to get some groceries, particularly spices.

Looking ahead to Sunday, rain likely, mainly after 1pm. 🌧️ Mostly cloudy, with a high near 46. North wind around 6 mph becoming east in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible. Typical average high for the weekend is 43 degrees.

Sunday I’ll be going out to see the folks 👪 and have Sunday dinner. Turkey soup for dinner. Should be delicious. It’s always great to visit them, even if otherwise it will be a quite wet and dreary day. But not all days can be sunny, and at least it’s not snow or road salt season yet.

Looking ahead, there are 2 weeks until Bill of Rights Day 📜 when the sun will be setting at 4:24 pm with dusk at 4:54 pm. On that day in 2022, we had partly cloudy, sleet and temperatures between 33 and 16 degrees. Typically, the high temperature is 38 degrees. We hit a record high of 61 back in 2015.

Shifting that clock back didn’t really make the mornings much brighter 🔆

Maybe I just get up too early, the hour when the good folks of Madison County are milking the cows but shifting that extra hour of daylight in the morning doesn’t help that much. There is only a limited amount of daylight in November.

Good morning! Monday’s come back around again. Partly clear and 33 degrees at the Stoney Pond State Forest. Sunrise is quite pretty now that it’s finally happening. 🌅 Calm wind.

Up early decided I wanted eggs 🥚 again this morning. No cinnamon on my eggs this morning, lol. 🍳 😂 Did fry up two onions 🧅 which made for an excellent start though sort of melted my olive oil bottle warming it by the heater. Mushrooms 🍄, garlic and spinach, lots of turmeric and smoked paprika. Then I decided I was still hungry so I fried up some French style green beans with another egg and nutritional yeast. 🥗 Should be good on the energy ⚡ side of things today.

Today will become mostly cloudy 🌤️👉🌥, with a high of 48 degrees at 2pm. Five degrees below normal, which is similar to a typical day around November 18th. Light south wind increasing to 11 to 16 mph in the morning. A year ago, we had mostly sunny skies in the morning, remaining cloudy in the afternoon. It was humid. The high last year was 72 degrees. The record high of 73 was set in 2015. 3.2 inches of snow fell back in 1933.❄

Today I plan to head to Cazenovia around nine 9⃣ and park and ride my bike from there. 🚲 Some around the village, Lorenzo State Historic Site and Cazenovia Lake Park.🏰 I know nothing about the historic site, worth checking out. Then some of the Chittenango – Cazenovia trailway down to Chittenango Falls State Park 🏞 and hike down to the falls and maybe some of the park trails in the back.

Solar noon 🌞 is at 11:47 am with sun having an altitude of 31.2° from the due south horizon (-39.3° vs. 6/21). A six foot person will cast a 9.9 foot shadow today compared to 2.2 feet on the first day of summer. The golden hour 🏅 starts at 4:10 pm with the sun in the west-southwest (242°). 📸 The sunset is in the west-southwest (249°) with the sun dropping below the horizon at 4:51 pm after setting for 3 minutes and 7 seconds with dusk around 5:19 pm, which is one minute and 12 seconds earlier than yesterday. 🌇 The best time to look at the stars is after 5:54 pm. At sunset, look for mostly cloudy skies ☁ and temperatures around 47 degrees. Breezy, 16 mph breeze ⛅ from the south. Tomorrow will have 10 hours and 6 minutes of daytime, a decrease of 2 minutes and 26 seconds over today.

Yesterday was a great day. ☀️ A whole lot more sun then I expected. I thought maybe sunshine breaking through clouds late but not the deep blue skies most of the day. ☺ Started out around 11 am parked across from the Chittenango Village Hall, rode along the Chittenango River Trail, the partially completed Chittenango Feeder Trail to current terminus, Chittenango Canal Musuem, then along the Old Erie Canal to Green Lakes State Park, part of the way around Green Lake, then to Canastota and Wampsville. 🚲 Then back around to Canastota and poked around the village then back to Chittenango on Main Street. 36 miles or so ridden, see my track I posted earlier. 🗺

Drove back through the Fenner Wind Farm ⚛ and made it back to camp ⛺ nearly a half hour before dark. 🌃 🔥 Had a quick dinner of bean soup 🥣 and bread 🍞 that I reheated then fried some apples, banana and strawberry 🍓 🍏 🍌 in some olive oil with stevia. Pretty good. A bit cool with the wind for a while 🍃 but it died down as the night progressed.

Tonight will have showers, mainly before 2am. 🌧 Low of 43 degrees at 7pm. Nine degrees above normal, which is similar to a typical night around October 11th. Windy, with a southwest wind 18 to 28 mph, with gusts as high as 43 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. In 2022, we had mostly clear skies in the evening, which became mostly clear by the early hours of the morning. It was somewhat humid. It got down to 46 degrees. The record low of 18 occurred back in 1962.

Replenished the firewood stock 🪓🪵 up at camp ⛺ so I’m ready for tonight. I’m not going to string up a tarp but I’ll have dinner fairly early and a fire 🔥 and retire to the bed of my truck once the rain 🌧️ picks up which looks to be around seven 7⃣ o’clock if the forecast is accurate. I have books 📚 to read inside my truck cap and I have cell service here 📱 so I can stream video, listen to podcasts or lectures from my truck. Hoping tomorrow will be dry enough to do some riding or hiking, not sure but maybe one of those preserves on Otsego Lake north of Cooperstown. 🚶 I could also ride around Hamilton and poke around the village a boy if it’s not raining.

Veterans Day Weekend 🪖 goes back and forth on how nice it will be. Depends on the timing for that front on Thursday still could change. Still much cooler than this past weekend. Veterans Day Observed, Friday, mostly cloudy and 40. Saturday, partly cloudy, with a high near 37. Sunday, mostly sunny and 38. Typical average high for the weekend is 51 degrees. Not sure if I’m heading out of town next weekend but if I do probably Rennselearville State Forest though I’ve considered Vermont too.

Looking ahead as but not forward, next Monday is the first Average Night Below Freezing 🌌 when the sun will be setting at 4:43 pm with dusk at 5:12 pm. Earlier for sure back in the Albany. On that day in 2022, we had partly cloudy and temperatures between 49 and 36 degrees. Typically, the high temperature is 50 degrees. This morning in Madison County was a bit below freezing but the elevation is higher here. We hit a record high of 69 back in 1964.

I’ve decided this winter ❄ I really want to and should commit to bringing my programming and data science skills to the next level 🖥 with those free courses on Udemy offered by my library 📚 and other free sources of programming knowledge like Free Code Camp. I was really into Free Code Camp until the class got really hard and was on topics I thought I’d never actually use for my blog and similar purposes. 🤓 But now in the next few months when I transition over to Data Services professionally, I want to have not only the skills needed to succeed at work but also personally. Computer programming and data science skills are a transferrable to a wide variety of careers. 🧑‍🏫

March 22, 2023 Morning

Good morning! What day is it? With a clunk I’ll drop it into third gear and be on my way this Wednesday. Mostly cloudy and 33 degrees in Delmar for the morning walk. ☁ Calm wind. The skies will clear around noontime.

With the clouds some bright red skies. 🌅 Not so cold, I debated wearing the winter coat versus the vest. The winter coat won out but it’s a bit warm. My heat is off inside. Didn’t need the heated blanket last night, maybe it’s after seeing my electric bill earlier in the week. Reheat of the apple 🍏 pancakes topped with mixed berries 🥞 this morning.

So far the week has been going by quickly but maybe because it ordinary 🏢 and well planned. I’m fine with that as I’m ready for spring time and the green up 🌷 which is probably like a month away.

Today will be cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny ☁👉☀ , with a high of 59 degrees at 3pm. 11 degrees above normal, which is similar to a typical day around April 14th. Spring continues for a few more days before winter comes for the weekend. Light and variable wind becoming south 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. A year ago, we had mostly sunny skies. The high last year was 53 degrees. The record high of 81 was set in 2012. 7 inches of snow fell back in 1887.❄

Yesterday I got down to the park 🏞 for a while and walked the Nature Trail and sat for a bit but not long as it got dark quickly. But it’s still March and that’s to be expected. They hardened the trails last summer with road crumb which makes for better walking in mud season. 👢

Had to add some additional holes to my belt last night with a drill because it was getting loose. I think it stretched and I’ve lost some weight as my collars in my dress shirts seem looser too. Brown rice, lentils and tofu with lots of chilli 🌶 powder and garlic for dinner, my breath was garlicly by evening, no vampires 🧛‍♂️ near me. I wish I had eaten more fruit 🍏 with dinner though as by the evening I was feeling like my blood sugar was very low.

Solar noon 🌞 is at 1:03 pm with sun having an altitude of 48° from the due south horizon (-22.9° vs. 6/21). A six foot person will cast a 5.4 foot shadow today compared to 2.2 feet on the first day of summer. The golden hour 🏅 starts at 6:33 pm with the sun in the west (265°). 📸

Updated the blog theme with some new colors 🎨 with spring coming. Broke some things with the mobile 📱 version though I need to fix. The colors make it easier to pick out individual sections of the blog. I also fixed the aspect ratio on selected maps and videos and re-enabled photo titles. I’m trying to reduce clutter 🧹 while not hiding important information.

The sunset is in the west (272°) with the sun dropping below the horizon at 7:10 pm after setting for 2 minutes and 54 seconds with dusk around 7:37 pm, which is one minute and 9 seconds later than yesterday. 🌇 At dusk you’ll see the Waxing Crescent 🌒 Moon in the west (269°) at an altitude of 10° from the horizon, 233,893 miles away. 🚀 The best time to look at the stars is after 8:11 pm. At sunset, look for partly cloudy skies 🌃 and temperatures around 54 degrees. There will be a south breeze at 8 mph. Today will have 12 hours and 20 minutes of daytime, an increase of 2 minutes and 55 seconds over yesterday.

Almost light enough now in the morning 🚶 to walk before breakfast again. 🥣 This is the order I prefer as it makes my schedule more flexible. Plus it works out well with having to run to the rest room after walking 🚽 and having an empty stomach before breakfast though Id probably eat an apple 🍏 before walking to maintain a healthy blood sugar level.

Tonight will have a chance of showers, mainly after 4am. Mostly cloudy 🌧, with a low of 43 degrees at 5am. 15 degrees above normal, which is similar to a typical night around April 30th. South wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. In 2022, we had mostly clear skies in the evening, which became mostly clear by the early hours of the morning. It got down to 24 degrees. The record low of -4 occurred back in 1875.

Not a particularly nice weekend on tap. 😞 I won’t mind if I have to work this weekend, I could use the comp time for nicer weather. Saturday, rain before 8am, then rain and snow between 8am and 11am, then rain after 11am. High near 40. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Sunday, a chance of rain before 8am, then a chance of showers between 8am and 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 49. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Typical average high for the weekend is 49 degrees.

One month 📅 from now will be Earth Day 🌎 when the sun will be setting at 7:46 pm with dusk at 8:14 pm. Good to provide some advanced notice to the coal rollers.

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The age old question for winter camping is … do I sleep in a heated tent or my truck?

Truck Cap

Resistant to heavy snow, ice, wind
Doesn’t need to be dried out like the tent if it gets wet/snow covered
No set up or take down time for the tent
Truck cap can leak a bit in heavy rain
Usually plenty warm once I’m under the covers
Have access to the main power board so I can easily switch on and off lights
I won’t bring the heater near the truck due to the fire risk. If I burn up a tent or sleeping bag, it’s not the end of the world, I have a hunting knife to cut the tent in an emergency.

Heated tent

Even in quite cold weather, with wind, rain and temperatures in single digits, the heater can make it toasty in a few minutes inside — warm enough to strip down and sit above the covers, although at that point I usually turn down the heat
Usually drier then the truck cap as the heat in the tent keeps the water evaporating off the top and sides of the tent, although sometimes snow can melt and pool in part of the tent
Gets cold relatively quickly when the heater is turned off
Can be drafty on a windy night, even with the heater on as wind blows under the fly
Colder then the truck cap when I wake up in the middle of the night or in the morning, at least until I can spark up the heater
If I want electricity in the tent, I have to run a power wire from the truck to the tent

The heated tent is definitely more comfortable in the winter then truck cap. But it’s a real pain if I have to take the tent home, wet and dry it out. Even setting up a tent for one night is a lot more work then the truck cap. For multi-day camping trips in the winter though, the tent is the winner.

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